"He who marches out of step hears another drum." ~ Ken Kesey
Quote from: mk162 on September 15, 2014, 01:48:52 PMthe reason being with film you are making a copy of a copy, which anybody that has seen multiplicity will know it's never as sharp as the original
the reason being with film you are making a copy of a copy, which anybody that has seen multiplicity will know it's never as sharp as the original
True Eb, buuuut, you still have to print film, you still have to take the time to line them up, even if it's quick, not as quick as printing the sep on the screen and boom you are done. You have to work with one for a couple days, and know what the hype is all about. Not that the FPU isn't a good idea, it's just another element of time and possible human error. We did it all three ways. I cut up a tri lock frame to do what Alan is doing, I don't think I had it quite dialed in as he does so I went back to carrier sheets again and now the CTS, there is no way I'd go backwards. NOOOOOOO WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAY!!!!!!
Quote from: jvanick on September 15, 2014, 02:40:23 PMThat's the german (i believe?) one.. I think Volker posted about it... that one uses a DLP light source to do the exposureseems to me it was like 150k or so.http://www.kiwo.com/Product%20pages/ScreenSetter%20main.html
That's the german (i believe?) one.. I think Volker posted about it... that one uses a DLP light source to do the exposureseems to me it was like 150k or so.
'94 Gauntlet!?!? SWE-E-E-E-T
Quote from: Evo on September 14, 2014, 11:58:45 PMProfessionally, this thread leaves me thoroughly and completely depressed. Why so?
Professionally, this thread leaves me thoroughly and completely depressed.
Quote from: Dottonedan on September 15, 2014, 08:39:43 AMQuote from: Evo on September 14, 2014, 11:58:45 PMProfessionally, this thread leaves me thoroughly and completely depressed. Why so?I closed my shop and now I am employed by someone who seems to think basic tools and equipment are luxuries. Anything remotely like a DTS system, registration system, LED exposure, etc would simply never end up in this operation. It took weeks just to talk him into a second dip tank for developing. It took MONTHS to order new screens after I counted 60-70% of the inventory was busted or full of holes.After several years of running everything exactly how I wanted it, and constantly making improvements, now I am getting into arguments about at least fixing what's broke just to keep the shop firmly in the 1990's.I'm pretty much over it.
Um if I remember correctly, the Signtronic sucker is like $500k. Or as I refer to a price tag like that, "chump change".
Quote from: screenprintguy on September 12, 2014, 01:24:35 PMTrue Eb, buuuut, you still have to print film, you still have to take the time to line them up, even if it's quick, not as quick as printing the sep on the screen and boom you are done. You have to work with one for a couple days, and know what the hype is all about. Not that the FPU isn't a good idea, it's just another element of time and possible human error. We did it all three ways. I cut up a tri lock frame to do what Alan is doing, I don't think I had it quite dialed in as he does so I went back to carrier sheets again and now the CTS, there is no way I'd go backwards. NOOOOOOO WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAY!!!!!! I get this part, but since we have an MHM and it's FPU, I can place a piece of film in the exactly correct spot in about 5 seconds and tape it down. I'm pretty sure that's faster than printing the image on the screen, and no extra hardware or workarounds necessary... I'm still interested, but I really can't see the change in getting jobs through the shop faster, since we never have printers waiting for screens to print unless it popped on press and an emergency remake is necessary. And if so, 5 seconds to line up and tape a piece of film is pretty quick. I would rather spend 40K somewhere else, like toward a replacement for our '94 Gauntlet.My point exactly. It just wouldn't make sense for us to invest 40K into something that, while not perfect, simply isn't broken. More/better autos now that makes sense.Steve