Our first press was a 12, second press an 8. If we had to do all over again we would do the exact same thing. We have never NOT been able to run a job. So many times I have seen guys love their new press only to wish they had a little more a few months down the road. Oh, and when we started with only a manual our first drier was a mini sprint with 12 ft of heat. You should of seen the looks we would get with that setup. But we had a vision and never wanted to buy twice. Third press was another 12 and looks like a 10 will be a good fit in the near future.