MHM, S-Roque or M&R?

[TCT]

I didn't want to sound too preachy in my earlier post, but for the record I friggin' love our S.Roque. I would like to get a second one in here, I was even looking at getting a sizeable loan and bringing in a nice size oval. The machines are built like a brick shithouse.

You can get plenty of reviews from printers that have ran then for 15yrs+ but you will need to speak Spanish and Portuguese. One thing to keep in mind is there a little under 100 machines installed in North America so finding users on this site is a little harder. I believe there are 4 or 5 of us, and only 2 that are regulars.

The guys at Forward Printing switched from a E-Type and now have 2 S.Roques, but I believe their main reason for switching was service(Hirsch) related. There are shops here in the states that have converted from pretty much every brand to a S.Roque. I can probably get you contact info but it may take a day or two, I do have a day job!

As far as converting screens, the tabs for statics are like $1ea. and the ones for rollers are like $2ea. Each screen needs 2 tabs, unless you are going to flip your screen for burning 2 images, then you need 4. You can run both types of screens at the same time if wanted.

S.Roques largest downfall is they do not clearly advertise or inform of everything you can have done to a press. Want auto electric reg like the MHM 4000? Ask them, they have done it. Want your press to accept MHM screens/reg? Ask them, they do that. Want it to work with Tri-loc? They do that. You get the idea....

If you have specific questions you would like to ask me I PM'd you my info. Ask here also, good information and decision is what this place is all about! I have as of recent banned myself from hanging on the forum during work so I can get some work done!

[dirkdiggler]

http://www.mrprint.com/en/Textile%20Screen%20Printing%20Equipment/Automatic%20Screen%20Printing%20Presses/Automatic/GAUNTLET%20III%20Automatic%20Screen%20Printing%20Press

[1964GN]

S.Roques largest downfall is they do not clearly advertise or inform of everything you can have done to a press. Want auto electric reg like the MHM 4000? Ask them, they have done it. Want your press to accept MHM screens/reg? Ask them, they do that. Want it to work with Tri-loc? They do that. You get the idea....

Thanks for that little tidbit!

If you didn't get a call late yesterday expect one today.

[1964GN]

I agree with your advice the Srouge is a good press. I have only seen the Ryonet one and the display features or lack of turned me off. I think that was the cheaper press so the one above it may have more controller features.

What display features was it missing that turned you off? Just wondering if we would find it as important, and if it's available on the YOU or not.

Thanks!

[1964GN]

As the 1st G3 was supposed to be mine, I was told its EXACTLY the same press as the smaller footprint CH3 with a different control panel.

IF that is an accurate statement, it hardly sounds like a step forward in regards to new technologies and features. I am not say's it's a bad press, just not a step forward. For the record: We are still waiting on M&R to get back to us with specs and pricing so this post may be way far off base

[blue moon]

this went off topic so I split it. The MHM deficiencies are here:
http://www.theshirtboard.com/index.php/topic,12750.0.html

let's get this back on track!

pierre

[ZooCity]

This is a great thread so far. 

We are ever so slowly narrowing down what appears to be an almost identical purchase to the orig poster.  If it helps, the comparative models in terms of price/overall build/features are:

M&R Gauntlet 3
S.roque Eco
MHM S type

My conclusion was fairly easy to make- I would like the S.roque bottom carousel, MHM print heads, full compatibility with M&R style accessories and I would like the machine to be sold and serviced by M&R. For the UI, the MHM tablet interface or the new G3 UI both look pretty good.   Now, who do I call to order this? 

[dirkdiggler]

I think M&R will make you a custom one

[Orion]

I saw on a social media site Gauntlet III recently won Best in Show at FESPA Mexico.

[Screened Gear]

I agree with your advice the Srouge is a good press. I have only seen the Ryonet one and the display features or lack of turned me off. I think that was the cheaper press so the one above it may have more controller features.

What display features was it missing that turned you off? Just wondering if we would find it as important, and if it's available on the YOU or not.

Thanks!

This was a few years ago. I don't remember for sure. On the MHM there is a clean position. It moves the pallets a half turn. You can then move them by hand one station. I use it all the time. They don't have that. You have to unlock and re lock I think?? It was a small display. I just remember looking at it and thinking you couldn't do too much. This was the YOU I think. Your looking at the one above that one so it may have a ton of features.

[TCT]

I agree with your advice the Srouge is a good press. I have only seen the Ryonet one and the display features or lack of turned me off. I think that was the cheaper press so the one above it may have more controller features.

What display features was it missing that turned you off? Just wondering if we would find it as important, and if it's available on the YOU or not.

Thanks!

This was a few years ago. I don't remember for sure. On the MHM there is a clean position. It moves the pallets a half turn. You can then move them by hand one station. I use it all the time. They don't have that. You have to unlock and re lock I think?? It was a small display. I just remember looking at it and thinking you couldn't do too much. This was the YOU I think. Your looking at the one above that one so it may have a ton of features.

That is how the YOU indexes. It is either in free wheel mode or it is locked in. It indexes with a geneva drive. The ECO can full index in the printing direction, half index backwards and free wheel.


Zoo/Chris, I'm pretty sure features and print size, the CHIII is there with the S-Type and ECO.

[Screened Gear]

TCT,

I will do a video of my e-type controls if you do a video of your EVO controls. The e-type has the same controls as the other MHM presses. Does anyone have a CHIII that would like to do the same.

We could make it AUTO WARS - Control Panels

If you do a video do the main control and the controls on each head.

[TCT]

I'll do it, anyone want to do a voice over for me? Can't stand when I have to hear my own voice!   You are talking about print head controls right?

[Screened Gear]

I'll do it, anyone want to do a voice over for me? Can't stand when I have to hear my own voice!   You are talking about print head controls right?

All the controls that the press has. Start with the main control and then move to one of the heads to show the controls there. Just stuff you use when setting up a job. We dont need to see you change print stroke delays, waterbase to plastisol or any other secondary controls that are always uses on each job. Unless you what to. I think it would be fun to see how all the other press work.

[ericheartsu]

TCT,

I will do a video of my e-type controls if you do a video of your EVO controls. The e-type has the same controls as the other MHM presses. Does anyone have a CHIII that would like to do the same.

We could make it AUTO WARS - Control Panels

If you do a video do the main control and the controls on each head.

ours is scheduled to ship Sept 16th