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Re: 400 Screens in 8 hours with 1 person - Coat, Image, Expose & Rinse
« Reply #45 on: August 13, 2014, 10:21:04 AM »
If the room air is dehumidified, I doubt there is much change by introducing wet screens.  You'd have to really have to have a lot of screens and open emulsion in there and an underpowered unit to drastically alter the moisture level of a room.

We coat in the afternoon.

My screen room sits at 38-40% humidity with a 90 pint machine and A/C running all day

10 minutes after coating, that shoots up to 46-48% and it then takes a few hours for the room to stablize after that.

let me add, we only have 125 screens and coat on average 50 a day. I can't image what a room filled with a couple hundred screens would do to that humidity level.



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Re: 400 Screens in 8 hours with 1 person - Coat, Image, Expose & Rinse
« Reply #46 on: August 13, 2014, 11:12:10 AM »
A shop that needs 400 screens in a day as to be rocking, I know that was just for demo, but I'm just saying wow for those that run 100 or so screens a day.
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Re: 400 Screens in 8 hours with 1 person - Coat, Image, Expose & Rinse
« Reply #47 on: August 13, 2014, 11:29:54 AM »
meh :)  Yeah, I guess that's ok.  I need all of that right now, I lost 66% of my labor force today and I'd kind of like to not replace any of them and that room would help achieve that, but then I'd have nobody to unload and catch shirts...decisions.
They do have an automatic unloader... what is it again? Passport I believe.  ;)

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Re: 400 Screens in 8 hours with 1 person - Coat, Image, Expose & Rinse
« Reply #48 on: August 13, 2014, 11:40:59 AM »
If the room air is dehumidified, I doubt there is much change by introducing wet screens.  You'd have to really have to have a lot of screens and open emulsion in there and an underpowered unit to drastically alter the moisture level of a room.

We coat in the afternoon.

My screen room sits at 38-40% humidity with a 90 pint machine and A/C running all day

10 minutes after coating, that shoots up to 46-48% and it then takes a few hours for the room to stablize after that.

let me add, we only have 125 screens and coat on average 50 a day. I can't image what a room filled with a couple hundred screens would do to that humidity level.

There are different and easy ways to configure a system to work better.  Also M&R was just demonstrating the efficiency of their equipment and what IS possible.  Wouldn't be hard to add 5 seconds of walking per screen to place the freshly coated screens in a separate area.

We use a couple large closets with dry air intake, heated inside, and exhaust up top to completely dry up to 50 screens in 2 hours.  This is inside of the whole dark room to the side of our CTS. Once dry they are stored on shelves along the wall to be imaged when needed.

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Re: 400 Screens in 8 hours with 1 person - Coat, Image, Expose & Rinse
« Reply #49 on: August 13, 2014, 11:58:24 AM »
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Wouldn't be hard to add 5 seconds of walking per screen to place the freshly coated screens in a separate area.

and the guy still wouldn't be breaking a sweat.

if/when I get that setup, I'd have the washout machine outside the screen room as well.

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Re: 400 Screens in 8 hours with 1 person - Coat, Image, Expose & Rinse
« Reply #50 on: August 13, 2014, 12:12:18 PM »
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Wouldn't be hard to add 5 seconds of walking per screen to place the freshly coated screens in a separate area.

and the guy still wouldn't be breaking a sweat.

if/when I get that setup, I'd have the washout machine outside the screen room as well.
the Eco-rinse machine was outside of the room and this in no way was to represent how to set up the room. It was done for do purposes only to show the speed of the process with the right equipment.
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Re: 400 Screens in 8 hours with 1 person - Coat, Image, Expose & Rinse
« Reply #51 on: August 13, 2014, 12:13:28 PM »
what's the list like on the eco rinse machine?

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Re: 400 Screens in 8 hours with 1 person - Coat, Image, Expose & Rinse
« Reply #52 on: August 13, 2014, 12:30:00 PM »
what's the list like on the eco rinse machine?
28k
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Re: 400 Screens in 8 hours with 1 person - Coat, Image, Expose & Rinse
« Reply #53 on: August 13, 2014, 02:11:26 PM »
How is the stencil strength of water base, discharge, and HSA inks using this exposure process?
Anyone have some run quantities using these systems on these inks?


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Re: 400 Screens in 8 hours with 1 person - Coat, Image, Expose & Rinse
« Reply #54 on: August 13, 2014, 02:39:29 PM »
Mr. Hoffman

What is the price on the uni-coat? Also do the blue screen racks come in taller sizes & the price of them.

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Re: 400 Screens in 8 hours with 1 person - Coat, Image, Expose & Rinse
« Reply #55 on: August 13, 2014, 03:28:30 PM »
Also do the blue screen racks come in taller sizes & the price of them.

I asked alex about those last year at the SGIA show and was told.. not for sale! custom made especially for the room they go it..

has that changed because they really are wicked awesome racks. what we don't see if the back has a small opening for a dehumidifier.
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Re: 400 Screens in 8 hours with 1 person - Coat, Image, Expose & Rinse
« Reply #56 on: August 13, 2014, 03:43:15 PM »
Also do the blue screen racks come in taller sizes & the price of them.

I asked alex about those last year at the SGIA show and was told.. not for sale! custom made especially for the room they go it..

has that changed because they really are wicked awesome racks. what we don't see if the back has a small opening for a dehumidifier.
Hmmm. I guess I'm back to fabricating my own.

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Re: 400 Screens in 8 hours with 1 person - Coat, Image, Expose & Rinse
« Reply #57 on: August 13, 2014, 04:18:34 PM »
Mr. Hoffman

What is the price on the uni-coat? Also do the blue screen racks come in taller sizes & the price of them.
around 15k
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Re: 400 Screens in 8 hours with 1 person - Coat, Image, Expose & Rinse
« Reply #58 on: August 13, 2014, 05:55:57 PM »
around 15k

Think I asked you before.. handles a 28 x 38 frame size?

I really want to buy a coater but our screen size limits what we can buy.
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Re: 400 Screens in 8 hours with 1 person - Coat, Image, Expose & Rinse
« Reply #59 on: August 13, 2014, 06:13:01 PM »
around 15k

Think I asked you before.. handles a 28 x 38 frame size?

I really want to buy a coater but our screen size limits what we can buy.
handles up to at least 50x 50
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