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Re: Brown ElectraPrint nightmare Machine
« Reply #15 on: August 10, 2014, 09:12:26 PM »
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Re: Brown ElectraPrint nightmare Machine
« Reply #16 on: August 11, 2014, 10:39:51 AM »
Put the machine in manual mode and then perform the following sequence several times:

Index
Lift
Drop
Index
Lift
Drop
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As the pallets lift, see if they lift straight up, or if they have a noticeable shift to the left or right.
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Re: Brown ElectraPrint nightmare Machine
« Reply #17 on: August 11, 2014, 05:47:25 PM »
It's running pretty smooth but it seems like no platen is the same as far as location it prints. Does anyone know how to adjust the collar on the shaft? I would post pictures but of what?
« Last Edit: August 11, 2014, 07:24:21 PM by TheGhost »

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Re: Brown ElectraPrint nightmare Machine
« Reply #18 on: August 11, 2014, 05:51:51 PM »
Is it holding regerstration but the image is moving left to right on the pallets. Example pallet 1 image is 2" from the left side of the pallet #2 it's 2-1/2" #3 1-3/4" etc.


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Re: Brown ElectraPrint nightmare Machine
« Reply #19 on: August 11, 2014, 07:26:51 PM »
Is it holding regerstration but the image is moving left to right on the pallets. Example pallet 1 image is 2" from the left side of the pallet #2 it's 2-1/2" #3 1-3/4" etc.

Yes, exactly. There are currently 3 pallets that print about 2 centimeters off. If I line the exact same design up on the 1st head and then on head 5 and check the registration across each pallet there are 3 that are off a centimeter. Head 3,4, and 7 it seems.

We measured and it really is inconsistent across all of them as far as where it is printing from pallet to pallet. I'll post some pictures a bit later when I get home.

Again, is there any techs who can help and come work on this machine?

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Re: Brown ElectraPrint nightmare Machine
« Reply #20 on: August 11, 2014, 07:58:42 PM »
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Re: Brown ElectraPrint nightmare Machine
« Reply #21 on: August 11, 2014, 10:33:16 PM »
Is it holding regerstration but the image is moving left to right on the pallets. Example pallet 1 image is 2" from the left side of the pallet #2 it's 2-1/2" #3 1-3/4" etc.

Yes, exactly. There are currently 3 pallets that print about 2 centimeters off. If I line the exact same design up on the 1st head and then on head 5 and check the registration across each pallet there are 3 that are off a centimeter. Head 3,4, and 7 it seems.

We measured and it really is inconsistent across all of them as far as where it is printing from pallet to pallet. I'll post some pictures a bit later when I get home.

Again, is there any techs who can help and come work on this machine?

So the print is staying registered, it's just not staying centered on the shirt from platen to platen?
If so, that's SUPER simple to fix but adjusting the platen mounts. This is something you can easily do yourself.
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Re: Brown ElectraPrint nightmare Machine
« Reply #22 on: August 11, 2014, 11:46:54 PM »

How? Theyre all supposedly level?

It is not staying registered. If I line up two of the same screens on head 1 and head 5 using the first pallet, there are 3 pallets that do not print registered. It is registered on the other 5.
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Re: Brown ElectraPrint nightmare Machine
« Reply #23 on: August 12, 2014, 08:06:04 AM »

How? Theyre all supposedly level?

It is not staying registered. If I line up two of the same screens on head 1 and head 5 using the first pallet, there are 3 pallets that do not print registered. It is registered on the other 5.

Can you post some photos of what's happening? I think that may give us a better idea for troubleshooting.
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Re: Brown ElectraPrint nightmare Machine
« Reply #24 on: August 12, 2014, 09:33:00 AM »
Here are a few pictures of what is happening. I have this screen lined on head 5 to the screen on head 1, it's lined up on 5/8 pallets. On the three that are off it looks like this. There is one that is slightly better than the other 2 but still off. Also when we measured where the print lands from pallet to pallet it is never the same.
« Last Edit: August 13, 2014, 11:17:48 PM by TheGhost »

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Re: Brown ElectraPrint nightmare Machine
« Reply #25 on: August 12, 2014, 10:02:16 AM »
Is it out of reg Top to Bottom  or  Side to Side?  T-B would be un level pallets .. side to side would registration bearings/forks.
« Last Edit: August 12, 2014, 10:23:37 AM by T Shirt Farmer »
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Re: Brown ElectraPrint nightmare Machine
« Reply #26 on: August 12, 2014, 10:12:18 AM »
I'm betting it's the registration bearings and forks.

you'll want to figure out exactly which arms are out of registration, and look to see which bearings are engaged in which forks when you table up... also.. you'll want to see how 'hard' it tables up when you table up when those arms are under head 5 and head 1...

you can definitely fix the registration, but it'll take patience.  and some accurate measuring to get it perfect.

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Re: Brown ElectraPrint nightmare Machine
« Reply #27 on: August 12, 2014, 10:15:44 AM »
Just when I was starting to look at a brown as my first auto....lol.

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Re: Brown ElectraPrint nightmare Machine
« Reply #28 on: August 12, 2014, 10:37:48 AM »
You need a good tech and your issues will be solved probably. Unless there is something we are missing like it fell off a truck and is bent to hell lol.
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Re: Brown ElectraPrint nightmare Machine
« Reply #29 on: August 12, 2014, 10:39:48 AM »
I have an Electraprint also.  I can't quite figure what would cause the problem you are having.  I would suggest:
1. Check the L-R micro to make sure they're tight enough on the head.
2. Rotate the alignment pin (couldn't find a proper name for it).  Located on the next level up from the platten, (easily seen at the load station) it slides into a couple rollers to L-R align the platten. It's a pin about 1 in in diameter and 3 inches long.  If it has developed a flat side, it could affect individual platten registration.  A slight rotation of the pin will give it a new surface.  Make sure they're greased.
3. If all else fails, I'd try a shim where the platten arm attaches to the base.  This is assuming that platten is off in every screen position.