Back in the allover business again

[tonypep]

Thanks mainly to Lenny and Eric. Sadly many try this and give up often due to poor planning. Primarily for shoulder to shoulder work for clothing lines so we dictate the art not the customer. They never get it right or understand image limits. Overall limits are 28" wide by 22" tall. I always do this for the art department

[alan802]

I know years ago when the owners here wanted to do some research in doing all-overs I was amazed at how much more was involved than current sized prints.  I'll gladly let others take care of those orders.  Good luck even though you don't need it. 

[starchild]

The All Over prints are back in fashion.. The only difference is the trend setters and early adapters are accepting the 100% poly as the shirt of choice.. So dye sub it is.. The cotton is not the fashion. It  does not drape or feel or look like the poly.. If you put both next to each other, they'll reach for the poly.. My daughter rocks it and so do all her friends - boys and girls..

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[tonypep]

I know years ago when the owners here wanted to do some research in doing all-overs I was amazed at how much more was involved than current sized prints.  I'll gladly let others take care of those orders.  Good luck even though you don't need it.

Thanks Alan and you're right. There are so many nuances to the process that pretty much no one thinks of until they creep up like a bad cold. The frames have to be a very specific size and they are custom made to spec, including the wall thickness. I know more than a few operations that (late in the game) realized they did not have the proper pre-press equip to process these screens. And so the very expensive pallets lie dormant; still in the crate. High tension usually will fail and simply isn't necessary as we are printing over the shoulder seams. Large scoop coaters and squeegees of course. Then theres the pallets. They must be taped in a very specific way and the same applies to tack. Loading and unloading? Well theres a two person method but we figured out how to do it with one and that's important.The process requires some converse thinking such as what I mentioned about tension. But theres more. The application is narrow and focused and; more importantly, dictated by production and not art/sales. Number of colors, detail, shirt styles and sizes must be pre-approved by production before any project gets too far in development. This goes against the way most of us operate ie: sales/art gets the job and production needs to figure it out (often at "whatever it costs") The template pictures precisely where we can and cannot decorate. Simply saying 28"x22" will get you into trouble real fast. Of course off the shoulder and tall side seams as well as shoulder to shoulder graphics are just a few techniques that are possible.
Much more but this has a been a longer post than I'm usually allowed.

[Printficient]

I know years ago when the owners here wanted to do some research in doing all-overs I was amazed at how much more was involved than current sized prints.  I'll gladly let others take care of those orders.  Good luck even though you don't need it.

Thanks Alan and you're right. There are so many nuances to the process that pretty much no one thinks of until they creep up like a bad cold. The frames have to be a very specific size and they are custom made to spec, including the wall thickness. I know more than a few operations that (late in the game) realized they did not have the proper pre-press equip to process these screens. And so the very expensive pallets lie dormant; still in the crate. High tension usually will fail and simply isn't necessary as we are printing over the shoulder seams. Large scoop coaters and squeegees of course. Then theres the pallets. They must be taped in a very specific way and the same applies to tack. Loading and unloading? Well theres a two person method but we figured out how to do it with one and that's important.The process requires some converse thinking such as what I mentioned about tension. But theres more. The application is narrow and focused and; more importantly, dictated by production and not art/sales. Number of colors, detail, shirt styles and sizes must be pre-approved by production before any project gets too far in development. This goes against the way most of us operate ie: sales/art gets the job and production needs to figure it out (often at "whatever it costs") The template pictures precisely where we can and cannot decorate. Simply saying 28"x22" will get you into trouble real fast. Of course off the shoulder and tall side seams as well as shoulder to shoulder graphics are just a few techniques that are possible.
Much more but this has a been a longer post than I'm usually allowed.

Tony we will make custom frames to your parameters.  Let me know if you need any.

[tonypep]

Good to know Sonny but Nazdar has it covered

[jason-23]

how do you charge for allover printing, how much do you mark it up from standard printing?

[tonypep]

Sorry not allowed to post that info

[Action1]

Thanks mainly to Lenny and Eric. Sadly many try this and give up often due to poor planning. Primarily for shoulder to shoulder work for clothing lines so we dictate the art not the customer. They never get it right or understand image limits. Overall limits are 28" wide by 22" tall. I always do this for the art department

Thank you Tony for the reference. As always, your feedback when using our products has helped us to improve them. 
We have also noticed that there's a resumption of interest in All Over Printing. As you would expect - we love it. I couldn't even begin to count how many of my hours in the last twenty years has been focused in this area.

[Underbase37]

Good luck to you on this project, I'm sure if anyone can tackle this properly it would be you. This always seems to be an up hill battle between production & the front office. "Go team communication"

[tonypep]

Thanks. We had two dedicated autos both at Harlequin and Oats for this. They were the prototypes back over ten ys ago. We were the guinea pigs but staggered through the pitfalls and figured it all out.

[Orion]

It has been a few months since we have done any AOP and I can honestly say...I do not miss it...at all.

[tonypep]

For Zoo and Aquarium program. One screen one pass no flash. Antique white.

[mk162]

discharge?

Has anybody seen those beach shirts with the shoulder to shoulder prints with puff ink?  This reminds me of that.

[tonypep]

Yes DC. Navy ink for lights antique white for darks 30" wide