Anatol LED Exposure unit

[TCT]

Typically I like it when Rich posts, his posts are typically chalked full of facts, stats and good details. When the posts include that they are more of a learning experience for me and I don't look at it as a "mine is better than theirs" deal.

[traxlerprinting]

Hey everyone - here's my input on the new unit as we received the very first Aurora UV LED unit in the United States.

IT'S AMAZING AND WORTH EVERY PENNY. I waited, hunted, decided to run with Anatol. We added our first Anatol equipment last July and have shown 208.6% growth to date.

To give you some background, we had a old National exposure unit, you know, the really big ugly grey - loud, slow, and energy hog - unit.

Our OLD burn times (1000watt) with KIWO POLYCOL Discharge Emlusion
Mesh Count        National Unit        Aurora
65-85                    13min                TBD
110-125                11min              12-15sec
155-230                 8min             10-11sec
305                       7.5min               10sec (could be lower if needed)

I posted a video of our first 15sec exposure here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LneqdrEiHEU

On an average day in my shop we shoot between 15-30 screens, it takes my screen guy all day (cleaning and shooting at the same time). Monday he shot 45+ screens before his first break for the day (he comes in around 9 and takes break around 11). It takes longer to print the film than to shoot the screen and much longer to wash the exposure out than shooting... absolutely awesome. If we keep this up, we'll be cutting back the screen room 2 hours per day = 10 hours a week, $5200 direct savings in labor there... IT JUST PAID FOR ITSELF. we're saving on energy costs (it's only 5 amps not much draw at all), and there are others cost savings as well.

IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS, ASK. I am here to help - you never know, I may need your help sooner or later too! zachary (at) traxlercustomprinting.com

We will be posting more video's, how to's, etc soon.

Finally found someone who uses the same emulsion as me, BUT, I expose for 1.5 seconds on the Starlight!

I'd like to see a video of that... I kind of actually find that hard to believe. You dont have to post expose for discharge printing? What mesh at 1.5sec? ... Still, the Starlight is more expensive... for 13.5 seconds... I'd rather use Anatol. #redcamp

[dirkdiggler]

Hey everyone - here's my input on the new unit as we received the very first Aurora UV LED unit in the United States.

IT'S AMAZING AND WORTH EVERY PENNY. I waited, hunted, decided to run with Anatol. We added our first Anatol equipment last July and have shown 208.6% growth to date.

To give you some background, we had a old National exposure unit, you know, the really big ugly grey - loud, slow, and energy hog - unit.



Our OLD burn times (1000watt) with KIWO POLYCOL Discharge Emlusion
Mesh Count        National Unit        Aurora
65-85                    13min                TBD
110-125                11min              12-15sec
155-230                 8min             10-11sec
305                       7.5min               10sec (could be lower if needed)

I posted a video of our first 15sec exposure here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LneqdrEiHEU

On an average day in my shop we shoot between 15-30 screens, it takes my screen guy all day (cleaning and shooting at the same time). Monday he shot 45+ screens before his first break for the day (he comes in around 9 and takes break around 11). It takes longer to print the film than to shoot the screen and much longer to wash the exposure out than shooting... absolutely awesome. If we keep this up, we'll be cutting back the screen room 2 hours per day = 10 hours a week, $5200 direct savings in labor there... IT JUST PAID FOR ITSELF. we're saving on energy costs (it's only 5 amps not much draw at all), and there are others cost savings as well.

IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS, ASK. I am here to help - you never know, I may need your help sooner or later too! zachary (at) traxlercustomprinting.com

We will be posting more video's, how to's, etc soon.

Finally found someone who uses the same emulsion as me, BUT, I expose for 1.5 seconds on the Starlight!

I'd like to see a video of that... I kind of actually find that hard to believe. You dont have to post expose for discharge printing? What mesh at 1.5sec? ... Still, the Starlight is more expensive... for 13.5 seconds... I'd rather use Anatol. #redcamp

That's a 156 yellow mesh and yes its true, roll on down to GA if you want to see it.  I am sure Anatols version is good too, just different LEDs and configuration.  I will try to get a video, and btw, mine has no glass, as it is set up for cts.  That does make it faster.

[prozyan]

The glass is probably where the majority of the exposure difference comes from.

Still, I'm not sure a difference of 12 seconds is going to be a deal breaker for many people.

[dirkdiggler]

The glass is probably where the majority of the exposure difference comes from.

Still, I'm not sure a difference of 12 seconds is going to be a deal breaker for many people.

Right , ALL LED UNITS ARE FAST!

[pwalsh]

Hey everyone - here's my input on the new unit as we received the very first Aurora UV LED unit in the United States.

IT'S AMAZING AND WORTH EVERY PENNY. I waited, hunted, decided to run with Anatol. We added our first Anatol equipment last July and have shown 208.6% growth to date.

To give you some background, we had a old National exposure unit, you know, the really big ugly grey - loud, slow, and energy hog - unit.

Our OLD burn times (1000watt) with KIWO POLYCOL Discharge Emlusion
Mesh Count        National Unit        Aurora
65-85                    13min                TBD
110-125                11min              12-15sec
155-230                 8min             10-11sec
305                       7.5min               10sec (could be lower if needed)

I posted a video of our first 15sec exposure here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LneqdrEiHEU

On an average day in my shop we shoot between 15-30 screens, it takes my screen guy all day (cleaning and shooting at the same time). Monday he shot 45+ screens before his first break for the day (he comes in around 9 and takes break around 11). It takes longer to print the film than to shoot the screen and much longer to wash the exposure out than shooting... absolutely awesome. If we keep this up, we'll be cutting back the screen room 2 hours per day = 10 hours a week, $5200 direct savings in labor there... IT JUST PAID FOR ITSELF. we're saving on energy costs (it's only 5 amps not much draw at all), and there are others cost savings as well.

IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS, ASK. I am here to help - you never know, I may need your help sooner or later too! zachary (at) traxlercustomprinting.com

We will be posting more video's, how to's, etc soon.

Zachary:  Thanks for the informative post, the YouTube video, and congratulations on the business growth that your company has achieved.

[Dottonedan]

Uh yea Dan I think your opinion on this would be a but objective sorry but thats a fact.
You really do fail to see my point or just ignore it.

I neither fail nor ignore. It just doesn't hold any water as it pertains to Rich.
Rich doesn't need me to defend him. I've read that the more intelligent people are more apr to not say much at all...and if they do, they make it count. I probably will never be grouped into that bunch and I'm ok with that, LOL.

I myself, for my own needs, feel it should be pointed out that (we owners), or me specifically do not drive the direction of this forum. It drives itself by the voice of the people.
Those "derailments" are never initiated by Rich. If it gets derailed, it's because of the group of members directing it that way. If you go back into past post, the evidence is there. Research it yourself. You need only go back a month or so to see a consistent pattern. Rarely (if ever), will you or have you seen him start to comment before we are already talking about an M&R product. He will simply comment, replies and provides facts and maybe even opinions (and don't we all). That's the good thing about this, he's contributing after his Co. Has already been mentioned and let me ask, why can't he reply without being called a hijacker?? He's not the boogie man, he's another good contributor here like you. You have "patterns" as well. We all do. So what if he's the owner. Many owners comment here about their own products. And facts, you mentioned facts. A fact, is something you can prove. It seems to be your "opinion" and not fact, that my opinion is biased because I work for him. The fact is, (I can say that because I am talking about me and can give facts about what I know. The fact is, that I'm responding to what I feel is an injustice. I don't think it's meant to be harmful, just miss directed. The fact is, this is the 2nd time that someone has used his participation as a tool to benefit or support their own stance. I let it go last time (because of this same thing you claim). It's as if I can't comment on something ever, that pertains to Rich or M&R and cannot ever say anything supportive of M&R and have it be lag intimate and honorable. Really?  Do you really believe that? I don't think you really do.

This reply is about me and what I see as sort of an injustice. The 2nd injustice is the unknowingly and unintentional attemp to stifle me, keep me quiet on my own forum and prevent me from replying in support of someone. That's how I see that comment about my "factual biased opinion".

I am not the only one that has noticed this trend over the past year or so, so what ever you say to me includes others.

. We will always have people that sees things from a different perspective. That's a good thing.

[GraphicDisorder]

I love how simple stuff like this thread goes to challenging someones motives and basically their character. Over a LED unit.... Dan is educated, knowledgeable, and is a asset to this board before M&R and IMO even more so now. I don't think Dan's opinions or actions are "bought"... so its sorta ridiculous to me that he can't praise M&R? Laughable.

Folks all LED units are fast. History shown Anatol builds "good" equipment. History has shown that support it poorly.  Recent history suggests some improvement is happening in support, I think that is in direct relation to feed back in places like THIS FORUM. So this forum again brings something good to the industry..... If nobody picks at stuff manufactures build it wont improve I assure you.
 

[inkman996]

I love how simple stuff like this thread goes to challenging someones motives and basically their character. Over a LED unit.... Dan is educated, knowledgeable, and is a asset to this board before M&R and IMO even more so now. I don't think Dan's opinions or actions are "bought"... so its sorta ridiculous to me that he can't praise M&R? Laughable.

Folks all LED units are fast. History shown Anatol builds "good" equipment. History has shown that support it poorly.  Recent history suggests some improvement is happening in support, I think that is in direct relation to feed back in places like THIS FORUM. So this forum again brings something good to the industry..... If nobody picks at stuff manufactures build it wont improve I assure you.

You know this board makes me F!@#ing sick some times. Dan just posted a whole paragraph completely twisting every single thing i said. He kept implying I was blaming Rich which i never did not once. I clearly said the culture of the board and never pointed anyone out at all. Good Job Dan you accomplished what you wanted.

Brandt I could care less about your opinion on anything, trust me on that.

You all can keep on circle jerking I won't be part of it. I have had enough of this board, see ya

[Dottonedan]

inkman,

I don't think that anyone thought or even now believe that you (intended) to be mean or negative, you were simply mentioning what you thought or believe you saw. I'm stating my side. That's how it works.
Nobody wants to push you away. Infact, we encourage you to say what you believe, but you're going to have to also understand that some may agree and some will disagree.. I know you really know this and are hoping you're just a little upset right now. You have to understand, you did say those things (not horrible things), just stuff worth clearing up, to me) and I responded.

Like you yourself mentioned, threads get derailed, so let me stop here.
I appologize to all for the disruption.

Back on track.

[Sbrem]

Don't go Mike, really. You're a very good element here, just let it cool a bit, it really got bigger than it should have gotten.

Steve

[244]

I love how simple stuff like this thread goes to challenging someones motives and basically their character. Over a LED unit.... Dan is educated, knowledgeable, and is a asset to this board before M&R and IMO even more so now. I don't think Dan's opinions or actions are "bought"... so its sorta ridiculous to me that he can't praise M&R? Laughable.

Folks all LED units are fast. History shown Anatol builds "good" equipment. History has shown that support it poorly.  Recent history suggests some improvement is happening in support, I think that is in direct relation to feed back in places like THIS FORUM. So this forum again brings something good to the industry..... If nobody picks at stuff manufactures build it wont improve I assure you.

You know this board makes me F!@#ing sick some times. Dan just posted a whole paragraph completely twisting every single thing i said. He kept implying I was blaming Rich which i never did not once. I clearly said the culture of the board and never pointed anyone out at all. Good Job Dan you accomplished what you wanted.

Brandt I could care less about your opinion on anything, trust me on that.

You all can keep on circle jerking I won't be part of it. I have had enough of this board, see ya

I believe in stating your opinion as well as your beliefs. No offense taken on my part Mike. Stay around and try to help those you can. The industry needs people like you and me, I think! LOL.

[Frog]

Hell Mike, if you truly split, I'm just glad that you helped me with my rush font search in time yesterday afternoon. 

I also know that a little time can heal this. Any forum is going to have a little friction and personality clashes, but you know damn well it never rarely gets out of hand here.

[prozyan]

Some of you are just too sensitive

Wow, Alan nailed it way back on the second page.

[starchild]

Wow!! Everyone take some time to stop by a 7 eleven- Let them know put the snickers bar on my tab..