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Offline Mr Tees!!

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CCI WB/DC RED...anyone care to share their formula?
« on: July 22, 2014, 08:58:57 PM »
...I have a order in-house that is a good candidate for a WB/DC job (I am careful what I attempt this on). Black G5000's, white and red front print. I wanna try printing both colors as discharge, but have read (and heard) a lot of crap about getting a good bright red. Anyone wanna share a proven formula? I need a red like a GA Bulldog kinda red, typical 186-C'ish would do. Just wanna take out a few trial steps first if I can , yknow?

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Offline dirkdiggler

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Re: CCI WB/DC RED...anyone care to share their formula?
« Reply #1 on: July 22, 2014, 09:07:22 PM »
FORGET IT!!! Me and the rep spent a full day trying to make that and Sericol out of the bucket KILLs it everytime.  If you do succeed, share with me.
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Re: CCI WB/DC RED...anyone care to share their formula?
« Reply #2 on: July 22, 2014, 09:16:36 PM »
Our CCI red mix was just right out of the book, roughly 25% pig load, activate at 3 to 4.5%.

Sericol makes some great reds but on many garments they wanted to turn a little pink on us which always annoyed me.

The red 185c we're getting out of Rutland is great too.

I believe it's really about balancing the pigment load and the activator to the fabric that you're working with.

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Re: CCI WB/DC RED...anyone care to share their formula?
« Reply #3 on: July 22, 2014, 09:20:10 PM »
I'm not at the shop now so I can't look up our exact formula, but I do remember like Zoo said the pigment load is up there!
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Re: CCI WB/DC RED...anyone care to share their formula?
« Reply #4 on: July 22, 2014, 09:26:25 PM »
I third the motion on a high pigment load.  We've found its the only way to get a strong red that lasts with our Matsui system.  I don't have our formulas in front of me, but we probably run at least twice the pigment recommended by the mixing software.

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Re: CCI WB/DC RED...anyone care to share their formula?
« Reply #5 on: July 23, 2014, 12:26:45 AM »
Yes, a much larger pigment load. Sometimes two if not three times as much for reds. That seems to be common across all brands as the activator destroys red pigment. I will mention and this is just my opinion with loads that high a "fixer" can help with wash resistance. Does wonders on 50/50 raglans for example.

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Re: CCI WB/DC RED...anyone care to share their formula?
« Reply #6 on: July 23, 2014, 06:40:43 AM »
We have about eight red formulas (not CCI) that pretty much cover the gamut of what is usually required. Not a problem but cannot share publicly. I believe CCI is working on a more pure red pig for ease of use.

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Re: CCI WB/DC RED...anyone care to share their formula?
« Reply #7 on: July 23, 2014, 08:00:58 AM »
redest red that ever red in my shop is Sericol, 50% red yellow shade and 50% red blue shade....3.0% activator...ain't never seen a red redder than that there red.

CCI rep stopped by a while back, I popped open my sericol, he got out the pigs. I won.....and I love me some CCI so I wish i liked it, but I just don't.
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Re: CCI WB/DC RED...anyone care to share their formula?
« Reply #8 on: July 23, 2014, 08:16:19 AM »
50% rubine and 50% orange has gotten us a decent rich red using 20% pigment load, we never really tried a higher pigment load but will after reading the above comments.

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Re: CCI WB/DC RED...anyone care to share their formula?
« Reply #9 on: July 23, 2014, 09:04:18 AM »
CCI is working on an "out of the bottle" Red pigment. We have a specific formula we use that our rep has tried to squeeze out of us for a long time.
I support many of the high pigment load + low activation recommendations. Experiment and do wash tests.
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Re: CCI WB/DC RED...anyone care to share their formula?
« Reply #10 on: July 23, 2014, 10:36:25 AM »
CCI is working on an "out of the bottle" Red pigment. We have a specific formula we use that our rep has tried to squeeze out of us for a long time.
I support many of the high pigment load + low activation recommendations. Experiment and do wash tests.

Gary actually has a new formula that was used to print for the world cup.  I haven't tried it though.
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