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Re: Anatol volt
« Reply #45 on: June 30, 2014, 10:31:59 PM »


I really don't think anyone that has experience with a "quick lock" system would be willing to give them up.

I am assuming that no one with a auto currently would be looking at a volt, if you have the air already in your shop the volt losses it's selling point....

Does anyone know if the Brown Electraprint has a clamping system? Or even that Graphica press that is all electric, I wonder how that one clamps.


Terry, are you able to give us a MSRP on the volt m-series, 7/8? I am not trying to be a dick here, just wanted to know the facts.
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Re: Anatol volt
« Reply #46 on: June 30, 2014, 11:45:50 PM »
Too late Alex. ;)

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« Reply #47 on: June 30, 2014, 11:51:41 PM »
I agree that Anatol micros are great, very intuitive and accurate with minimal jump or whip.  Left-Right linear motion feels so nice after using "X-Y" micros. 

I must also agree that I don't see where an all-electric press fits in unless the price is very low and/or aimed for garage printers (which I am proud to have been at one time).  An automated clamping for screens is pretty much essential for using a pre-reg system, even if it just needs a pancake compressor, I'd look into offering the option.

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Re: Anatol volt
« Reply #48 on: July 01, 2014, 02:48:04 AM »
So if im coming from a manual that has manual clamps am I really going to wish I had pneumatic clamps?

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Re: Anatol volt
« Reply #49 on: July 01, 2014, 06:16:08 AM »
Yes.  Though you may not realize it.
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Re: Anatol volt
« Reply #50 on: July 01, 2014, 06:30:16 AM »
Your not going to miss what you never had but once you try air locks you'll wonder how you lived without them. As simple as it is they are one of the best things to have.

As far as noise of the compressor yes a screw is more expensive but look at the big picture. I think when you look at the total press package price when it's all said and done the cost will be about the same across the board. There are also some nice piston compressors that are relatively quiet or come with factory sound dampening. If you were to build an enclosure, could even be a room like a closet it shouldn't cost more then a few hundred dollars.

I would like to see how Anatol comes up with the 52% more efficient number, seems kind of far fetched or a play on numbers.

I do not know which Anatol owners  you have spoke with but keep this in mind and I am not putting anyone down but. How long have they had the press, is it their first, how long have they had or been using autos, model, etc. Point being if it's the only auto that they have ever owned or operated or new at it how can they form an opinion on what's good or not. Find someone who has a Volt and best option would be to go and run it for a day.

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Re: Anatol volt
« Reply #51 on: July 01, 2014, 07:55:14 AM »
wait, how do you lock screens down?  Is there another type of quick lock system?

Screw 'em down..... anatol is going to need to find a way around this. On a auto I just can't imagine trying to tell a customer they need to manually screw the clamps down.

TCT, I understand your concern....we believe that the benefits of the VOLT, far outweigh the fact that you have to manually tighten the screw.

Thats an opinion Anatol has made but they are not printers we are and I personally would never in a million years buy a press that did not have automatic screen locks, and I could bet most all other printers in the world.
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Re: Anatol volt
« Reply #52 on: July 01, 2014, 09:26:46 AM »
With an angle grinder and a drill you can certainly 'add your own' airlocks (I did).. but then again, if you're buying a new press, you certainly don't want to be hacking it up day one.

FWIW: I would never own a press without air locks either... add in air squeegee/floodbar locks too... doesn't seem like it would make a huge difference, but on those little 20-30 piece jobs that are easier to setup and run on the auto, it's really nice to have both.

Idea for Terry/Anatol you could probably easily integrate a small pancake or heck, even a little airbrush compressor into the base to just handle the air locks and increase the amount of people interested in the press... probably cheaper than electric solenoids for all of those features as well...

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Re: Anatol volt
« Reply #53 on: July 01, 2014, 09:28:11 AM »
Would never own a press without air locks.
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Re: Anatol volt
« Reply #54 on: July 01, 2014, 09:33:23 AM »
Would never own a press without air locks.

same here
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Re: Anatol volt
« Reply #55 on: July 01, 2014, 09:39:33 AM »
Here is what I see, Anatol is trying to fill a need in the market they believe is there, I don't fault them for that. Seems like they haven't considered being a actual printer fully when doing so though.  IMO if I am a Anatol guy and I must have a Anatol id buy the Titan or Horizon and add a compressor far before dealing with a all electric press that has no screen lock downs. 
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Re: Anatol volt
« Reply #56 on: July 01, 2014, 09:40:13 AM »
cory.haynes- Another thing to think about(Terry hopefully you and your team can take this as constructive criticism) which if I am not mistaken we covered in another thread, is the volt(Terry PLEASE correct me if I am wrong here) does not have the ability to adjust squeegee or flood pressure. While the flood pressure may only be a very minimal issue, not being able to adjust squeegee pressure is a major issue. You lose a lot of control there. The difference we use between a discharge print and say a "1 hit white" is crucial. You can compensate for that in a few ways(squeegee angle, off contact, print speed) but all you are doing at that point is putting a band aid on the problem.
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Re: Anatol volt
« Reply #57 on: July 01, 2014, 10:48:29 AM »
I do not know which Anatol owners  you have spoke with but keep this in mind and I am not putting anyone down but. How long have they had the press, is it their first, how long have they had or been using autos, model, etc. Point being if it's the only auto that they have ever owned or operated or new at it how can they form an opinion on what's good or not. Find someone who has a Volt and best option would be to go and run it for a day.

Take a guy who has only rode a horse and give him a car that you have to jump start every day, has no AC, and no power steering... He's beyond himself happy because he isn't riding that horse for hundreds of miles a day, can cover more ground and isn't saddle sore.

How many of us would pay $15k for that car vs one of the other $15k cars on the market that has all these basic features?  Obviously once you have creature comforts you have a hard time ever thinking about living without them.  I'd never buy a car with no AC down here in the south!

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Re: Anatol volt
« Reply #58 on: July 01, 2014, 11:24:12 AM »
In due time no matter what is said here the Volt will make it's mark in the printing world or sink like a ship...some companies are bold and try new things (first to the market) while others sit back and watch then take action, but time will tell.
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Re: Anatol volt
« Reply #59 on: July 01, 2014, 11:41:24 AM »
In due time no matter what is said here the Volt will make it's mark in the printing world or sink like a ship...some companies are bold and try new things (first to the market) while others sit back and watch then take action, but time will tell.

If electric presses were going to take the world by storm wouldn't Brown be blowing our minds right now?  Anatol isn't first to market.
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