Anatol Volt

[Baron265]

So Paul...you too are accusing Anatol of bribing TCT?  I think this is something you should be very careful about doing as a rep. Dont you?

You should be careful about speaking for me.

[Prosperi-Tees]

ha this is crazy. Anatol would do so much better getting someone on here to speak about their products and service even it was compensated instead of trying to keep people hush.

[alan802]

So Boy, what would you have done in TCT's situation?  Going back to the beginning though, not just the recent problems he's faced with?  He was put in a bad situation in more than one way and he's been nothing but honest.  If he was compensated it should have been because fixing his equipment was the right thing to do and the compensation should have never been to keep something quiet.  That's just a bad deal and nobody should be put in that situation from a manufacturer.  Open and honest is the best policy, which TCT has been.

[Binkspot]

Mattress sales slow?

[244]

Mattress sales slow?

LOL!

[metalboy]

Just seems to be that TCTs accusations are very, very serious and yet you all just take it for granted that they are true. I mean...come on. Thats a big deal and you guys just go along like its nothing. Very strange.

[screenprintguy]

Mattress sales slow?

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[GraphicDisorder]

Mattress sales slow?

I almost died when I read that.  Hahahahha

[alan802]

Just seems to be that TCTs accusations are very, very serious and yet you all just take it for granted that they are true. I mean...come on. Thats a big deal and you guys just go along like its nothing. Very strange.

What is there to gain by him sharing his experience in public if it were completely false, or even fabricated in smaller ways?  Why would someone make something like that up?  When someone accuses an innocent person of something you expect a certain behavior from the innocent and when they exhibit a totally different behavior you then have to start asking questions.  Sure, innocent people have acted guilty and the guilty have certainly tried to act innocent, but under completely different circumstances where there was something on the line.  There is so much to lose for TCT by telling lies about something like that and if you look at each party's behavior to the situation things become a lot more clear to me.  Maybe you've lurked here and have put in a lot of time into the industry and what goes on here versus some of us, but I doubt it. 

Occam's Razor

[CGS]

Mattress sales slow?

hahaha, that's the line of the year there...,  almost spit my beer out 

[prozyan]

Reasons to believe TCT:

1.  I remember his posting about his problems a while back, therefore the issue is not made up.

2.  He has no motivation to make anything up.

3.  If his goal was to bash the company falsely there would be more easily believable ways to do so.

Reasons to not believe TCT:

1.  Yeah, I'm drawing a blank.

[Binkspot]

"Occam's Razor" perfect use, haven't heard that expression in a long time.

Bottom line TCT had an issue since day one, Anatol corrected the problem then politely asked that the whole situation would not be discussed in a public forum. Plain and simple. Personally IMO any deal struck between the two parties is between the themselves and really as long as the issue was resolved TCT doesn't have anything to complain about. 

[Frog]

Heck, the Anatol slammers here don't even need TCT or his situation to launch their attacks whenever Anatol is discussed here. This thread is evidence.
They always seem to answer the non-call.

It's the reason that Anatol does not even want to come here regularly to attempt to build good will. They know that they will be slammed!
It appears that TAS America is handling some service now, and even when they popped in, they were insulted.
So, don't be surprised if they have been chased away as well.

Perhaps it's a fine line sometimes, but there is a distinct difference between meaningful, thoughtful critique, and the virtual gang stomp style slam fest we see here.

[TCT]

Sorry guys, it has been a REAL nice day here in MN and me and my son(almost 3) did a TON of yard work and he "helped" fix our tractor. Just when I think he may be advanced, after lunch he proceeded to drink water out of the dogs bowl outside! Days like this make it hard to realize tomorrow is Monday:(

OK so now for Metalboys questions and accusations, here's the deal dude-
My original "public call for help" months ago, had 2.5 goals...
1) Publicly call anatol out and see if they may fix issues I had since day one, so I could sell my equipment and not have it be a pain for the next owner. Last thing I wanted was to screw another printer over.
2) Publicly(notice a pattern here) make a google searchable review/experience so that other people that are deciding on a press, could take this into account and make sure they can double check some things. It would be nice if no one had to experience what I did. anatol theoretically can make changes so it dose not happen again, it would be a good move for them and would also be a good thing for new customers.
2.5) I had been pissed off at them for so long, I wanted to give them a big middle finger.

anatol decided to "service" my equipment, but wanted to keep it all quiet and not public. That is fine, not a decision I would of made in their place but that's what they wanted to do.

I was never paid money, my "service" bill was forgiven if I did 2 things-
1) Not publicly talk about the problems I had with my equipment anymore.
2) I agreed to remain vocally "neutral" about their company.

Now I will admit I have walked a VERY thin line, but I feel that I have not slammed them anywhere near what I used to. If they don't like it, they can contact me and let me know. Hell, they are reading this thread as much as everyone else!

MetalDude if you still find my claim fishy contact anatol, ask for Christine Napacorn(spelling may be wrong) PM me if you would like her contact info.


A note to Baron265, alan802, Binkspot, and Prozyan- thanks for the kind words and support guys, that meant a lot to me.

Metalboy, let me know if you have any other questions. I don't have anything to hide, and nothing to pedal either unless you need some printed shirts....

[IntegrityShirts]

Heck, the Anatol slammers here don't even need TCT or his situation to launch their attacks whenever Anatol is discussed here. This thread is evidence.
They always seem to answer the non-call.

It's the reason that Anatol does not even want to come here regularly to attempt to build good will. They know that they will be slammed!
It appears that TAS America is handling some service now, and even when they popped in, they were insulted.
So, don't be surprised if they have been chased away as well.

Perhaps it'si a fine line sometimes, but there is a distinct difference between meaningful, thoughtful critique, and the virtual gang stomp style slam fest we see here.

Agreed. I only hope anyone reading all this will pick up on it.