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Offline Anatolhelp

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« Reply #90 on: June 02, 2014, 01:57:40 PM »
Here's one. I didn't know my chiller wasn't working so apparently it was dumping water into my press and now have the heads don't work and I can't afford at the moment to fix it so I limp along with a 4 head press until I have funds to fix it. That wouldn't happen with an electric press BUT what could go wrong with all electric press sure sounds more costly.

It's servo technology.   They are built to last a long time.  Thanks for bringing that up...that's the advantage of the VOLT !  With a two year warranty it will not cost anything for the first two years for the part.


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« Reply #91 on: June 02, 2014, 03:14:51 PM »
Here's one. I didn't know my chiller wasn't working so apparently it was dumping water into my press and now have the heads don't work and I can't afford at the moment to fix it so I limp along with a 4 head press until I have funds to fix it. That wouldn't happen with an electric press BUT what could go wrong with all electric press sure sounds more costly.

It's servo technology.   They are built to last a long time.  Thanks for bringing that up...that's the advantage of the VOLT !  With a two year warranty it will not cost anything for the first two years for the part.

That is true, (With a two year warranty it will not cost anything for the first two years for the part).but don't forget customer pays for shipping leave nothing for surprise.

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« Reply #92 on: June 02, 2014, 03:18:51 PM »
So they charge you shipping for a part that is under warranty?
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« Reply #93 on: June 02, 2014, 03:26:13 PM »
Shipping, tech expenses as well if needed and airfare, sustenance, hotel if needed etc etc

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« Reply #94 on: June 02, 2014, 04:03:19 PM »
Does Chevy charge you for the water pump on your 2013 to be shipped to the dealer, the tech to fix it and so on?
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« Reply #95 on: June 02, 2014, 06:18:35 PM »
Anatol removed the weakest link.  Pneumatic are gone from the VOLT!  Replaced with reliable long lasting servo electric technology.
Think about it, No pneumatic parts to break/leak! No down time due to failed tubing, fittings or air cylinders, Less maintenance which in turn means less expense and less down time!
The Volt is extremely energy efficient, save over 52% when compared to pneumatic presses that run on compressors and chillers. 
Bottom line....more profit for your shop and less headaches!
Quite operations allow you to use the Volt almost any where.  Reliability, Durability and an intuitive operating system, are just a few reason the Volt is the choice for your company’s new automatic.   All of this at an affordable cost.  The Family of Volts has a configuration of Image Sizes and Print Heat for any shop!


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« Reply #96 on: June 02, 2014, 06:50:57 PM »
Shipping, tech expenses as well if needed and airfare, sustenance, hotel if needed etc etc

So does this still apply?

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« Reply #97 on: June 02, 2014, 10:23:14 PM »
I have got to say I asked ligimate questions, not even sarcastic three pages ago and still have no answers. IMO this set the tone for how Anatol operates. Here's an opportunity to step up and explain how the press works and kill any rumors and nothing but crickets. It's not like they are giving up trade secrets. They know the thread exists, here's a perfect time to promote the product to a large audience of members and lurkers but again nothing. Even Baron stepped in for a min to set the record straight on the Saber, nothing more nothing less.

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So they charge you shipping for a part that is under warranty?

To be fair Brandt, even though they kinda dodged your question(IMO results of what Binkspot already explained) one of the "under warranty" issues they actually did send me a part for back in the day, the shipping was covered. If that is still the issue, guess we will have to wait till there is a fuss raised to find out.
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« Reply #98 on: June 03, 2014, 06:27:19 AM »
I really wouldn't call pneumatic parts of the press the "the weakest link". Quality parts will equate to long service life. You make it sound like failure is almost certain by using air when in reality it is one of the most reliable, cost effective and easiest to trouble shoot/repair prime mover and control system. I would be more concerned about the control system (electrical side) which tells the air side how and when to operate.

Don't get me wrong a servo lift is nice but I would rather change out two lift cylinders and some valves for less then $1k then a servo motor and amp for several grand but that's just me.

Think about the hundreds of thousands of trucks and trailers with millions of miles on them roaming the world all using air for the braking systems.

Just saying

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« Reply #99 on: June 03, 2014, 07:05:11 AM »
What most people might not know is that Anatol had a life before making presses.  They were and are world class robotics and automation manufacturers.  They have automation and robotics in many "house hold" name plants.  So I would have no problem trusting their technology.  Anyone questioning should look at the Vindicator.
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« Reply #100 on: June 03, 2014, 07:30:41 AM »
Vindicator is in a completely different league as far as presses and does use air. Comparing the two is like saying GM makes the Volt (no pun intended) and a Corvette.   

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« Reply #101 on: June 03, 2014, 08:30:09 AM »
What most people might not know is that Anatol had a life before making presses.  They were and are world class robotics and automation manufacturers.

I was told by a handful of people that they made air bags, no clue if there is truth to that or not.

I have never been questioning their capability(on this thread) more just interested in WHY a all electric press is a great thing.

I am not talking for Bink here, but what drives me crazy is the manner of which anatol handles things, in this case it is a straight forward question about a new product. There has been a lot of dancing around for how many pages?
Yes, I understand you don't need a compressor to run the press. Why is that a advantage? Most shops will utilize a compressor eventually anyway. Is the press cheaper than their entry level press with a compressor? The other thing I keep reading is "no pneumatics". This is a gray area for me, since anatol has compensated me to not publicly talk about the issues I have experienced with their equipment and remain "neutral" I can't really go into detail. But let's just say I have only experienced issues with the pneumatics on one press, are leaking or failing pneumatics and air lines a common issue with most presses out there(all brands)?

Like Bink was saying the tone of this thread seems to echo how they do things as a company. If they only understood that this forum, this thread in particular is a potential gold mine of sales contacts. This thread has directly asked for a sales pitch to a point. WHY did they make the press? Are all electric presses the future? Are the faster? Are they more capable? Is their a particular market or niche these are expected to thrive in? What kind of printer will they benefit? Do they address a particular need or issue existing presses miss?
We don't want a "get them while they last! Email or call for details" sales pitch, but I will venture a guess that this is probably the best place for them to have a productive conversation about their product aside from maybe a few of the ISS shows. Ya there may be some criticism, but that can lead to product and company improvements if handled properly. Call me crazy or extreme, but I feel we have a rather "elite" group of members and visitors on this site. People like Rich at M&R and Paul at Workhorse(yes I am leaving out probably a dozen others) have realized that and CONTINUE to participate in conversations, they advertise so we can continue to have this great site, and it gets noticed and they get business from it. They don't just hop in with a new screen name and respond to a issue or a negative blip. Their continued contributions here are appreciated and it makes their products more understood. Then we as a group don't bat around assumptions about their products, we are well informed.

Well I have been on long enough of a rant and been on my phone all through my breakfast time! Sound like McDonald's breakfast is in my plans now this morning! ;)
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« Reply #102 on: June 03, 2014, 08:46:43 AM »
Having both an all Pneumatic and a Servo/AC press I can tell you I am much much more scared about something electrical crapping out and its cost to replace versus almost anything Pneumatic. Pneumatics are easy to diagnose and fix, and really easy to source parts for. A stroke cylinder on a print head is nothing compared to replacing an AC motor or the electronic controller. Not saying I dislike any of it I would never want to go back to all Pneumatics but there is a difference in a big way.

A while back I had something propriatary go on our press and we lost one full week because it was not a part that you can buy anywhere and it was not something that can be diagnosed in any easy way.
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« Reply #103 on: June 03, 2014, 08:52:29 AM »
A while back I had something propriatary go on our press and we lost one full week because it was not a part that you can buy anywhere and it was not something that can be diagnosed in any easy way.

WOWz a week of downtime.
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« Reply #104 on: June 03, 2014, 09:08:34 AM »
Here's my point. Don't come out here or anywhere and say buy my product it's awesome and not back it up whith why it's awesome. If you make a statement explain why you think it's a great product even go as far as discussing its possible shortcomings and why the benefits outweigh the shortcomings. Have persons who use the product maybe chime in. Comments and discussion will only improve the product and if the mfg looks at the data and willing to make some changes everyone is better off.

If it was as easy as saying buy my product it's awesome and everyone did we would all be rolling in it.

I'm not saying the press is scrap and sure there are uses for it but honestly can only see flaws in the whole concept on many levels. Show me I'm wrong, not the first time not the last.