Anatol Volt

[screenprintguy]

Reading this post I've only heard of a few of you that have owned or used and Anatol press TCT we've spoke (email) and I know his problem with them and I side with him, but Anatol will be who they are and the equipment will make or break them.

We run Anatol.  They helped me out with my last issue, bad switch on the dryer. 
My little .02 regarding M&R money back guarantee, if Anatol would of had one and would honor it.  I would have sent our press and dryer back along with our exposure unit.         

Chris

[GraphicDisorder]

Reading this post I've only heard of a few of you that have owned or used and Anatol press TCT we've spoke (email) and I know his problem with them and I side with him, but Anatol will be who they are and the equipment will make or break them.

We run Anatol.  They helped me out with my last issue, bad switch on the dryer. 
My little .02 regarding M&R money back guarantee, if Anatol would of had one and would honor it.  I would have sent our press and dryer back along with our exposure unit.         

Chris

Wowz.

[TCT]

Ha! looks like I dropped a firecracker and then ran away and worked all day
 
I know this sounds hard to believe and I may have gone about it the wrong way but the majority of my comments were to attempt to "open" peoples eyes at anatol. Unfortunately they only seem to appear when there is mud with their name being slung. If manufacturers understood how valuable it is to participate in a WORTHY forum like this one I think they would see their bottom line increase along with general "good" information about their products. I SERIOUSLY have wanted to know if a all electric press is going to be something we were going to be seeing more of, or if they are a great idea for someone starting out. I have a few friends locally that have shops and hope to grow to autos one day and they ask me(may be a HUGE mistake) my opinions and what to expect. Neither one has ever been to a ISS show or anything so if I can give them a cliffs notes about stuff I do. Also, like Alan has mentioned I seem to "care" that other shops getting into things do their research and like to help if at all possible. You guys remember Kwan or whatever who wanted a S.Roque right out of the gate and had a lot of learning to do? We all kind of jumped in and guided him(for the record if anyone is counting I did tell him my opinion for him was to go with a M&R  ) But that dude went from wanting a S.Roque to discovering a Brown was right for him, talk about your 180's!    Point is I think a lot of the reasons I post on these boards is because I had found the information here and back in TSPMB days invaluable and I hope others continue to down the road.

Wouldn't it had been better for TCT to have gotten the service and repair for free and let him voice what Anatol did for him??? Seems odd to me.

Exactly.

Not sure if you guys remember but a little under a year ago I posted on here about my issues with anatol, I was posting emails and everything to try to hold them accountable. At the same time I literately told them I am underhanding you a pitch you guys can chose to hit it out of the park(publicly say that they would address my long standing issues) or let it drop at your feet(do nothing). They chose to go a VERY odd route and stepped into the pitch(sorry about all the baseball references, the game is on tv now  ) and requested any further communication be private. Whatever, that was their call.

[3Deep]

That was my hold point years ago when I first bought my Anatol was to get them to come on the forum here and talk.  Maybe I'm just one of the lucky ones that got a pretty good Anatol press and happy with it or I just hadn't played with enough brands of auto's to know the difference.  If Anatol choose not to take this opportunity here and shine what more can you say or do but to shut up and get back to work.

D

[IntegrityShirts]

It is well known and understood across the industry that the Anatol sales guys either don't know or can't explain exactly how their presses function or work. Is it a break down in communication on Anatol's part? Lack of training? Lack of management? Probably yes to all. Maybe they should have a tech/sales training session where they teach the sales guys how the presses work, not just run down the bulleted feature list.

Are we a little more geeky here on theshirtboard than the average screen printer? Without a doubt, yes.

Remember the thread/threads about Sroque and their chain drive indexing? Everyone and their grandmother wanted to know why a "bicycle" chain was used to index their presses. Fear immediately emerged from old precision oval users, "the chain's gonna stretch", "horrible design", etc etc. The engineering behind their drive/registration system is no where near the same as an old oval but the fear had already set in. We're all anxiously waiting to cast further judgement on the Volt...

I still want to see the linkage/motor for the choppers on the Volt because I'm a geeky person. I bet Randy at theOTS has already installed a few, could probably call him and ask all the questions you'd like and he'd know the answers.

[GraphicDisorder]

I think the Volt basically appeals to zero people on THIS site. It may have a market though, but I just don't get it. If I was a Anatol fan I don't know why I wouldn't just get a Titan and a air compressor or go for the Horizon.

What is the rough cost on the Volt? 

[alan802]

I always lean towards the fact that air has almost always played a role in a press's function for a good reason.  Printing the way we print air is essential and I believe it is essential to print plastisol properly.  We can go into all the details on that another time but without the infinite amounts of pressure we have to choose from in our chopper cylinders I know we would not be able to do the things we want to do with a print.  If there is somehow a way to provide that same pressure electrically and have that much control over how hard that blade is pushing down then I might give it a listen.  For those shops that don't operate the way we do the all electric press may be perfectly fine, I have no problem with it and I won't try to talk anyone out of it.

Like others have said, we use air for so many things that a large compressor is essential to our operation.  I love servo indexers and AC print heads but I also love being able to control the exact amount of squeegee pressure as well and we have all three of those on our press.

[jvanick]

I can't believe that nobody has mentioned the screen locking of pneumatic vs screw down yet...

before I converted the heads on my javelin to have pneumatic clamps for the screens, registration was a royal pita.  just the action of cinching down the screens with the turn knobs would shift things... I did a butt-register job last night with no choke, and didn't have to touch the micros. and that was NOT using any kind of screen registration jig.  Trying to hold the screen in place while screwing down clamps would have been extremely difficult, if not impossible.

[Frog]

I think the Volt basically appeals to zero people on THIS site. It may have a market though, but I just don't get it. If I was a Anatol fan I don't know why I wouldn't just get a Titan and a air compressor or go for the Horizon.

What is the rough cost on the Volt?

Do remember, that like with most forums, active participants are a small percentage of membership, and at most times, guests are almost twice the number of registered users online.
So, I do think that many T Shirt Forum type beginners do see our discussions (perhaps, much to the chagrin of some manufacturers and distributors)

Though it's great that we have attracted such a sophisticated and discerning membership, as we are the go-to place for intermediate and advanced printers, I notice great participation when Newbies do find us and ask their questions.

[bimmridder]

It's great that the up and comers have all you guys and gals to look to for good solid information, thus forming their own opinion. Man, to have had something like this 25 years ago......

[GraphicDisorder]

I think the Volt basically appeals to zero people on THIS site. It may have a market though, but I just don't get it. If I was a Anatol fan I don't know why I wouldn't just get a Titan and a air compressor or go for the Horizon.

What is the rough cost on the Volt?

Do remember, that like with most forums, active participants are a small percentage of membership, and at most times, guests are almost twice the number of registered users online.
So, I do think that many T Shirt Forum type beginners do see our discussions (perhaps, much to the chagrin of some manufacturers and distributors)

Though it's great that we have attracted such a sophisticated and discerning membership, as we are the go-to place for intermediate and advanced printers, I notice great participation when Newbies do find us and ask their questions.

Ive run a bunch of forums, so I get it for sure.  But I think when they dodge questions and you see a bunch of really smart people saying it's not got much of a place or they can't even explain it's place in the market at least in a way that makes sense then these people will be able to read between the lines.

[ScreenFoo]

It sure is fun reading about this press.  This thread is about a press, right?

[metalboy]

So let me understand this.  TCT claims that he was paid off to keep quiet about some horrible experience with an Anatol press.....but now he isnt keeping up his end of the deal and not only bad mouthing the company but  implying a bribe. Shouldnt they get their money back?  lol  . Something smells fishy about this story.

[Baron265]

So let me understand this.  TCT claims that he was paid off to keep quiet about some horrible experience with an Anatol press.....but now he isnt keeping up his end of the deal and not only bad mouthing the company but  implying a bribe. Shouldnt they get their money back?  lol  . Something smells fishy about this story.

Nothing fishy about TCT. He's a good guy, trying to do what's right, in a bad situation that's no fault of his own.

[metalboy]

So Paul...you too are accusing Anatol of bribing TCT?  I think this is something you should be very careful about doing as a rep. Dont you?