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Offline kirkage

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Time to experiment
« on: May 28, 2014, 10:43:05 AM »
I need to play around with a white discharge underbase. The plan is to discharge and then print a high mesh plastisol design on top. No halftones or anything. I like the thin 100 percent cotton shirts that I get from alpha( anvil tear away tags). What brand should I experiment with that will discharge well? I assume that the plastisol will not have a problem with the discharge underbase. Is this a bad assumption?


Offline StuJohnston

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Re: Time to experiment
« Reply #1 on: May 28, 2014, 10:53:01 AM »
Pretty sure that I read someone else trying this and they had a bad time. White discharge requires a pretty heavy pigment load and often some will flake off. I think that union has a white plasticharge that they say will work for underbasing though.

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Re: Time to experiment
« Reply #2 on: May 28, 2014, 10:59:51 AM »
I've used discharge base (no pigments) with great success on highly dischargeable fabrics.

I believe the answers posted before were to use a 20% discharge white to discharge base mix for a bright(er) white discharge....

I'll be trying this soon, so I'm interested in hearing the results.

(now if we could just stop printing triblends, performance shirts and other 50/50 blends I'd be a happy camper).

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Re: Time to experiment
« Reply #3 on: May 28, 2014, 11:05:21 AM »
the market wants all these soft hand prints as polyester is taking over. It is a conflict for the average small guy.

Offline tonypep

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Re: Time to experiment
« Reply #4 on: May 28, 2014, 11:20:13 AM »
A lot of blends and even some blends work fine. There are workarounds

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Re: Time to experiment
« Reply #5 on: May 28, 2014, 11:21:47 AM »
That's what we've been doing of late, until we have more time to practice. But, we're printing a normal white discharge, giving it a quick flash, the plastisols right on top, great luck so far. Try it, and see what happens, go from there.

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Re: Time to experiment
« Reply #6 on: May 28, 2014, 12:20:19 PM »
I printed some white discharge with plastisols on top last year for a club and all the shirts look like crapola now

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Re: Time to experiment
« Reply #7 on: May 28, 2014, 12:40:05 PM »
yes, i ate a lot of shirts experimenting with this. posted the results here.

http://www.theshirtboard.com/index.php/topic,10613.msg101886.html#msg101886

Offline tonypep

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Re: Time to experiment
« Reply #8 on: May 28, 2014, 01:06:05 PM »
Straight DC color is far better and easier once you make up a color library

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Re: Time to experiment
« Reply #9 on: May 28, 2014, 01:43:59 PM »
after reading the thread, it looks like I am barking up the wrong tree by trying to use DC as an underbase to plastisol

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Re: Time to experiment
« Reply #10 on: May 28, 2014, 02:59:33 PM »
Not necessarily. We only use it as part of the toolbox where color is extremely pick and we might not have them in our DC library. Heres a DC UB from way back with plas on top.

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Re: Time to experiment
« Reply #11 on: May 28, 2014, 03:01:19 PM »
Don't discount using DC as an underbase, at least not without some testing. We began to run a lot of 70/30 DC white/base last summer with some great results. We have even run the ratio of 50/50 white/base with success.
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Re: Time to experiment
« Reply #12 on: May 28, 2014, 03:02:14 PM »
Nice print Tony!
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Re: Time to experiment
« Reply #13 on: May 28, 2014, 03:03:07 PM »
Straight DC color is far better and easier once you make up a color library

I guess one screen that has discharge might be easier to handle, but in for a penny, in for a pound imo.

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Re: Time to experiment
« Reply #14 on: May 28, 2014, 04:24:31 PM »
you may want to try out this stuff:
http://www.ccidom.com/products.php?product=U%252dBASE-WHITE-UNDER%252dBASE-DISCHARGE-INK

from what I've read on here, it works well with plastisol on top.

We always use the 70/30 like these guys have said -base to white, Plastisol on top works well in that case..... Straight D white as a base with Plastisol on top is a no-go, from my testing...and failure...however, my cci rep had a few samples that were D-white, plastisol on top and they looked great, probably from Pierre's shop ;D
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