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What is the gallon and 5 gallon pricing like?
So I got in a 5er of International Coatings Legacy white through Spot Color supplies, the guys have been great to deal with, great prices as well!!! This ink is so dang creamy, so opquque. You can flash it with an IR flash 3 seconds on a cold pallet. It's killing the performance that we were getting from Street fighter white. Also, it cures lower so the girls are out there rockin out a job right now shirts flying through the dryer with a nice thick deposit, super super opaque! If you can get a sample of it, I highly recommend it over what we have been using. The past few whites were Street Fighter, Miami superior, Wilflex Echo, and Wilflex Quick. It's slamming all of those, "for us".
Quote from: screenprintguy on March 31, 2014, 03:38:05 PMSo I got in a 5er of International Coatings Legacy white through Spot Color supplies, the guys have been great to deal with, great prices as well!!! This ink is so dang creamy, so opquque. You can flash it with an IR flash 3 seconds on a cold pallet. It's killing the performance that we were getting from Street fighter white. Also, it cures lower so the girls are out there rockin out a job right now shirts flying through the dryer with a nice thick deposit, super super opaque! If you can get a sample of it, I highly recommend it over what we have been using. The past few whites were Street Fighter, Miami superior, Wilflex Echo, and Wilflex Quick. It's slamming all of those, "for us". Oh no you didn't. I guess it's time to have a Miami superior/legacy white throw down. Superior has blown all the things out of the water we've used with regard to opacity and after 100 shirts into a job last week we were flashing for .8 seconds for the base, and have passed it through 310 for bases at 10"/second. Guess it's worth a try.
$265 (or a deal that made it less) is pretty competitive for a creamy white. I have been REALLY happy with triangle poly excel, but it is pretty pricy. Flashes quick, not sticky, works on everything, easy as crap to print manually through high mesh, etc.
can I return an empty gallon? if so I'll take 5 of them.
I liked the gallon of Legacy I used. I've used a bunch of whites and it's above average with everything. I'm still using Tidy and likely won't switch until I find something better but I'll try anything. I still like the Miami whites a lot and I'd think the Legacy is on par with them as far as quality goes. The 711 is legendary and I'd love to know how many shirts have been printed with it. Ryonet used to rebrand it and they sold a ton of it. I've used about 10 gallons of it over the years and it was consistent so I'd imagine the Legacy will be as well.
Might need to try some out. Is it similar to 711 now? Last bucket of 711 I checked out was VERY low viscosity for a white.I heard IC reformulated 711 several times during the pthalate craziness--I've probably printed a few hundred thousand shirts with that white, and back then, most of my work was ON whites. I absolutely loved the stuff, till we got a very stiff bucket, and then a very loose bucket, and then we started buying something else. I'm guessing they have the formulas nailed down now, and it isn't changing anymore? I really miss the 'old' 711 when my new whites make me want to smack around reps... FWIW, I love their reds and blues, although they are a tinge too transparent for my tastes out of the bucket, they are pretty reasonably priced...
It's nicer than the 711. Printed a bunch of jobs today with the Legacy, underbasing, 50/50's. Didn't pass the 100% poly test, didnt think it would, but its great on the 50/50's. Unreal how creamy it is.
we gave the 100% a try. It was a red st350, notorious bleeder, double strokes, 2 second flash, pfp, dryer set at 310, temp on the ink road out at about 308 for 20 seconds.