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Re: H.S.A (High Solid Acrylics) Rutland vs Matsui 301.
« Reply #15 on: March 12, 2014, 12:56:42 AM »
We at Matsui have some information to share for successful W.O.W. printing using our 301 series and stretch white.

Recently we did a live demo with a very big prospect that pushed our ink to it's limits.  The test run consisted of 10 colors total with 2 flashes.

The sequence was as follows:

1.  Under base - Stretch White SS-1
2.  Flash
3.  301 Color
4.  301 Color
5.  301 Color
6.  301 Color
7.  Flash
8.  301 Color
9.  301 Color
10.  301 Color
11.  Highlight White - Stretch White SS-1

The tools used for this successful W.O.W. printing were as follows:  Softener XA-1, Printgen MG, and Fixer N.  3% of each into your inks will not only help with the ink not drying in the screens as fast, but also help with your prints curing at 320 degrees for 1:30 minutes in your dryer.  (During this test we left the ink in the screens for 1:15 minutes for lunch and able to start printing after a quick wipe of the image are using 10% Softener XA-1 into a spray bottle with water misting the ink and image area lightly).

There is also a recommended prep using the Softener XA-1 which consists of wiping both sides of the screen with this products to achieve the best performance of our inks.  Also, please make sure your screens are hardened properly.  We used Murakami SP-1400 with Hardener for the test listed above.

If you need some stretch in our inks, you can always substitute 50% of our stretch bases into our 301 formulas.

Please see photo for final print and feel free to contact me directly if you have any further questions.
Jesse Martinez
Matsui International Company, Inc.
www.matsui-color.com


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Re: H.S.A (High Solid Acrylics) Rutland vs Matsui 301.
« Reply #16 on: March 12, 2014, 01:22:31 AM »
Thanks for the great info.
What mesh size or type did you guys used?

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Re: H.S.A (High Solid Acrylics) Rutland vs Matsui 301.
« Reply #17 on: March 12, 2014, 01:28:57 AM »
Thanks for the great info.
What mesh size or type did you guys used?

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No problem.

Base plate - 135 mesh
Colors - 230 mesh
Highlight White - 180 mesh

I personally like the Murakami S Thread or LX Technology.  With the others it translate to a thinner thread diameter than normal.

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Jesse Martinez
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www.matsui-color.com

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Re: H.S.A (High Solid Acrylics) Rutland vs Matsui 301.
« Reply #18 on: March 12, 2014, 09:03:35 AM »

The sequence was as follows:



I've done very much in the same manner up to 14 colors, however I did not have all the additives you used.

I'll be sure to get some and use the numbers you mentioned in future runs.
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Re: H.S.A (High Solid Acrylics) Rutland vs Matsui 301.
« Reply #19 on: March 12, 2014, 10:15:33 AM »
Which is high opacity white in matsui range?

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Re: H.S.A (High Solid Acrylics) Rutland vs Matsui 301.
« Reply #20 on: March 13, 2014, 04:29:58 PM »

The sequence was as follows:



I've done very much in the same manner up to 14 colors, however I did not have all the additives you used.

I'll be sure to get some and use the numbers you mentioned in future runs.

Just let me or Dave from Multicraft know what you are missing and will make sure you have it.  Thank you!
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Re: H.S.A (High Solid Acrylics) Rutland vs Matsui 301.
« Reply #21 on: March 13, 2014, 04:32:10 PM »
Which is high opacity white in matsui range?

Our Stretch White SS-1 is your best and has great stretch properties.  PM me your information and will send you a sample.
Jesse Martinez
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Re: H.S.A (High Solid Acrylics) Rutland vs Matsui 301.
« Reply #22 on: March 15, 2014, 05:09:20 AM »
Stretch inks is for stretch fabric. For dark fleece fabric is there any opaque white in matsui?

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Re: H.S.A (High Solid Acrylics) Rutland vs Matsui 301.
« Reply #23 on: March 15, 2014, 06:38:26 AM »
We use Matsui stretch on our 100% cotton.
We still have to print flash print for the desire opacity.

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Re: H.S.A (High Solid Acrylics) Rutland vs Matsui 301.
« Reply #24 on: March 16, 2014, 10:14:58 PM »
Hey Jesse,

Can you elaborate for us on why it's recommended to wipe Softener XA-1 on both sides of the screen? 

We keep 5 gal of XA-1 on hand at all times and it's become standard here to mix 3% into our standard water based and discharge inks (we use CCI).  Great product, it's a silicone dispersion correct? 

Follow up question- is the Matsui opaque line an HSA system and do you recommend using the XA-1 in HSA inks?

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Re: H.S.A (High Solid Acrylics) Rutland vs Matsui 301.
« Reply #25 on: March 17, 2014, 01:07:15 AM »
Does Printgen mixed with Mat-301 have a shelf life? I know fixer F does.

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Re: H.S.A (High Solid Acrylics) Rutland vs Matsui 301.
« Reply #26 on: March 18, 2014, 01:53:39 PM »
Hey Jesse,

Can you elaborate for us on why it's recommended to wipe Softener XA-1 on both sides of the screen? 

We keep 5 gal of XA-1 on hand at all times and it's become standard here to mix 3% into our standard water based and discharge inks (we use CCI).  Great product, it's a silicone dispersion correct? 

Follow up question- is the Matsui opaque line an HSA system and do you recommend using the XA-1 in HSA inks?


Zoo City,

Our Softener XA-1 has become our magic additive which has given us many solutions.  It has silicon acting properties that when wiped on the screen it help with wet-on-wet printing to reduce build up on the print side and improves better ink flow/workability on the print side.  Also, what you will see is that you inks will not dry as fast when screens have been hardened properly.  One of the components in the additive is a Non-Phthalic acid plasticizer.

Our 301 Eco series ink is a PVC free/HSA high mesh printing ink that works amazing for W.O.W. printing with excellent soft hand.  Our new formulations on line (www.matsui-color.com) have less mixing components which is more appealing.  Our Stretch bases have been working great and are being used more often to increase opacity in our inks.  Also, we very high concentrated pigments which help in reducing costs when formulating inks.

Please see attached for our quick glance of our bases.  We will soon introduce a new RFU (Ready for Use) standard color option similar to those colors currently available in Plastisol.

Best wishes,
Jesse Martinez   
Jesse Martinez
Matsui International Company, Inc.
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Re: H.S.A (High Solid Acrylics) Rutland vs Matsui 301.
« Reply #27 on: March 18, 2014, 02:37:37 PM »
So stretch white has more opacity than 301 white?

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Re: H.S.A (High Solid Acrylics) Rutland vs Matsui 301.
« Reply #28 on: March 18, 2014, 02:44:09 PM »
So stretch white has more opacity than 301 white?

Noortrd,

Yes, Stretch White 301 SS-1 has more opacity than 301W.  You can also mix them together if you need to go high mesh since Stretch White is recommended for use up to 156 mesh.  We also have a product named 301W-CL which I also like the opacity.

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Jesse Martinez
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Re: H.S.A (High Solid Acrylics) Rutland vs Matsui 301.
« Reply #29 on: March 31, 2014, 08:06:34 PM »
Hey Jesse,

Can you elaborate for us on why it's recommended to wipe Softener XA-1 on both sides of the screen? 

We keep 5 gal of XA-1 on hand at all times and it's become standard here to mix 3% into our standard water based and discharge inks (we use CCI).  Great product, it's a silicone dispersion correct? 

Follow up question- is the Matsui opaque line an HSA system and do you recommend using the XA-1 in HSA inks?


Zoo City,

Our Softener XA-1 has become our magic additive which has given us many solutions.  It has silicon acting properties that when wiped on the screen it help with wet-on-wet printing to reduce build up on the print side and improves better ink flow/workability on the print side.  Also, what you will see is that you inks will not dry as fast when screens have been hardened properly.  One of the components in the additive is a Non-Phthalic acid plasticizer.

Our 301 Eco series ink is a PVC free/HSA high mesh printing ink that works amazing for W.O.W. printing with excellent soft hand.  Our new formulations on line (www.matsui-color.com) have less mixing components which is more appealing.  Our Stretch bases have been working great and are being used more often to increase opacity in our inks.  Also, we very high concentrated pigments which help in reducing costs when formulating inks.

Please see attached for our quick glance of our bases.  We will soon introduce a new RFU (Ready for Use) standard color option similar to those colors currently available in Plastisol.

Best wishes,
Jesse Martinez   


So now of course we can`t get Softener XA-1 here, the last time we asked they never heard of it, so they recommend to use PrintGen C912 but advised us to check for an increase in pinholes if applying it to the backside of the screen. Is the same happening if, even though the change is very remote, we would manage to get hold of Softener XA-1?