Industry regulations > CPSIA Section 103 - Tracking Labels
Responsibility when printing for the trade. Need answer immediately!
CastleKing:
The way I am interpreting CPSIA is that if you run multiple lots of ink, then each lot needs to have certification documents.
So, lets say you have a 10,000 piece run, you can have it certified one of two ways. The first is tested as a "whole" shirt. You send your finished garment to be tested for lead content. The problem here is that we all know that we may not run the entire production order with the same ink lot numbers; consequently, there should be multiple samples tested throughout the print run
The other way to certify is to have "batch" certification on the inks, which means you send wet samples of all of your colors and bases to be tested. Not only is this extremely expensive to do, but still poses the same problem once you open a new drum of ink.
Sounds like the regulators haven't done their homework to fully understand the printing process.
We are going to print tagless labels along with our internal PO# to track and identify the print date but I'm not sure how we will manage testing "whole" or "Batch"
Prosperi-Tees:
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My label, when used, is the size of a small postage stamp and is applied to the back of the shirt's tag. It is, however, labor intensive. Pierre's rubber stamp and data base seems much quicker.
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Hey Frog could you post a pic of your label?
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Do you just use an avery label or something of that sort? Wouldn't these come off after the first wash?
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blue moon:
--- Quote from: Homer on January 16, 2012, 03:52:39 PM --- who is going to go around checking to see if you are following these "rules"? How do you decide what size shirt is intended for a 12 year old /3 year old? We have a few ideas on tacking and logging our info. It should be done anyway for our own good - but- atleast you get some advertising out of the deal.
P - what ink are you using in your stamper? We tried a few different ones and they are all illegible after washing. We switched to a direct print.
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If it marketed to the 12 and under it has to comply. If it is an adult shirt that a kid is wearing, it does not have to comply. My understanding is that the marketing/intent is how you determine. . .
don't know where I got the ink, but it was specifically designed for fabric marking with a stamp. Look for a fabric stamping kit, it will come with ink. I have since purchased the ink and did a couple of washes without much degradation. That was black ink though, I should check the white just to make sure.
pierre
Frog:
--- Quote from: Prosperi-Tees on January 16, 2012, 03:54:17 PM ---
Do you just use an avery label or something of that sort? Wouldn't these come off after the first wash?
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Digital Heat Transfer. Used to use CLC on Neenah Photo Trans, now ite ink jet with Neenah Jet Pro Soft Stretch
blue moon:
--- Quote from: CastleKing on January 16, 2012, 03:53:00 PM ---The way I am interpreting CPSIA is that if you run multiple lots of ink, then each lot needs to have certification documents.
So, lets say you have a 10,000 piece run, you can have it certified one of two ways. The first is tested as a "whole" shirt. You send your finished garment to be tested for lead content. The problem here is that we all know that we may not run the entire production order with the same ink lot numbers; consequently, there should be multiple samples tested throughout the print run
The other way to certify is to have "batch" certification on the inks, which means you send wet samples of all of your colors and bases to be tested. Not only is this extremely expensive to do, but still poses the same problem once you open a new drum of ink.
Sounds like the regulators haven't done their homework to fully understand the printing process.
We are going to print tagless labels along with our internal PO# to track and identify the print date but I'm not sure how we will manage testing "whole" or "Batch"
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there are three CPSIA regulations: 101, 102 and 103. they address the tracking, lead and phthalates. We are talking strictly about the tracking info here which does not have any exemptions and does not require a certificate.
Lead and Phthalate compliance require a certificate even if the testing is not required.
SO those are two separate issues that we have to comply with.
pierre
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