Author Topic: blocking out text and printing over it.  (Read 3239 times)

Offline rmonks

  • !!!
  • Sr. Member
  • ****
  • Posts: 457
blocking out text and printing over it.
« on: February 05, 2014, 11:33:12 AM »
I have a customer who made a mistake in his customer furnished design. He wants me to block out / print over text which is black on an orange hoodie. and print new text in orange. Has anyone got any experience in doing this. I have 40 shirts to do. I told him it was going to look like crap putting it nicely. But is is hell bent on having it done.


Offline jvanick

  • !!!
  • Gonzo Member
  • ******
  • Posts: 2477
Re: blocking out text and printing over it.
« Reply #1 on: February 05, 2014, 11:36:31 AM »
what about a spot cleaner gun and whole bunch of chemical?

Offline blue moon

  • Administrator
  • Ludicrous Speed Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 6368
Re: blocking out text and printing over it.
« Reply #2 on: February 05, 2014, 11:38:16 AM »
I have a customer who made a mistake in his customer furnished design. He wants me to block out / print over text which is black on an orange hoodie. and print new text in orange. Has anyone got any experience in doing this. I have 40 shirts to do. I told him it was going to look like crap putting it nicely. But is is hell bent on having it done.

it can be done. If you just print a black block over the previous text, it will still be visible. You might have to print the black on it twice and then the orange.  'lasers help!

pierre
Yes, we've won our share of awards, and yes, I've tested stuff and read the scientific papers, but ultimately take everything I say with more than just a grain of salt! So if you are looking for trouble, just do as I say or even better, do something I said years ago!

Offline Frog

  • Administrator
  • Ludicrous Speed Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 13980
  • Docendo discimus
Re: blocking out text and printing over it.
« Reply #3 on: February 05, 2014, 11:42:53 AM »
Yes I've done big block cover-ups, and yes, by most standards it looked like crap, but the custy knew what to expect going into it.

Another method, easier to position, though labor intensive on larger runs is a print and cut vinyl "patch"
That rug really tied the room together, did it not?

Offline Sbrem

  • Ludicrous Speed Member
  • *******
  • Posts: 6057
Re: blocking out text and printing over it.
« Reply #4 on: February 05, 2014, 11:50:27 AM »
It's certainly not optimal, but it will work. We've done it more than once. A good example is buying too many shirts with a date on an annual event, and having leftovers; cover the date and print the new one...

Steve
I made a mistake once; I thought I was wrong about something; I wasn't

Offline TCT

  • !!!
  • Gonzo Member
  • ******
  • Posts: 2877
Re: blocking out text and printing over it.
« Reply #5 on: February 05, 2014, 12:28:29 PM »
It can be done but it is no walk in the park! Like Pierre said, lasers will be your best friend to make things uniform.

They make it look so easy with tattoos, but it is not as pretty with garments!
Alex

Hopefully I'll never have to grow up and get a real job...

www.twincitytees.com

Offline Screened Gear

  • Gonzo Member
  • ******
  • Posts: 2580
Re: blocking out text and printing over it.
« Reply #6 on: February 05, 2014, 02:12:52 PM »
If you don't have lasers or want to line it up perfect. Make a screen with the exact design that is on the shirt. Then lower that screen on the shirt. Pull the edges of the shirt until the design on the screen and the design on the shirt line up. You can get real fast at this and you can even do a lot better cover up then a big block. I did this with about 100 shirts that a customer forgot info. It only took about a hour and a half to do the 100 shirts this way. It had text over the original design, under the original and on top of the original design. Could never of did it with lasers. They all came out perfect. Charge a lot it does suck.
« Last Edit: February 05, 2014, 02:23:50 PM by Jon »

Offline Binkspot

  • !!!
  • Gonzo Member
  • ******
  • Posts: 1108
Re: blocking out text and printing over it.
« Reply #7 on: February 05, 2014, 03:18:44 PM »
We printed these shirts for two years, several hundred until one of the customers clients noticed the number was wrong. Customer approved the original art work. He was in a jam and needed shirts with the correct number for an even the next morning so we fixed 75 for him. Used the laser to align then shirt to the new art work.

Offline 3Deep

  • !!!
  • Ludicrous Speed Member
  • *******
  • Posts: 5333
Re: blocking out text and printing over it.
« Reply #8 on: February 05, 2014, 03:42:19 PM »
We have done that also, but to not make it look so crappy we make the blockout patch in a design then printed over it.

Darryl
Life is like Kool-Aid, gotta add sugar/hardwork to make it sweet!!

Offline Sbrem

  • Ludicrous Speed Member
  • *******
  • Posts: 6057
Re: blocking out text and printing over it.
« Reply #9 on: February 05, 2014, 04:09:10 PM »
If you don't have lasers or want to line it up perfect. Make a screen with the exact design that is on the shirt. Then lower that screen on the shirt. Pull the edges of the shirt until the design on the screen and the design on the shirt line up. You can get real fast at this and you can even do a lot better cover up then a big block. I did this with about 100 shirts that a customer forgot info. It only took about a hour and a half to do the 100 shirts this way. It had text over the original design, under the original and on top of the original design. Could never of did it with lasers. They all came out perfect. Charge a lot it does suck.

We've done this too, and I agree, charge a lot.

Steve
I made a mistake once; I thought I was wrong about something; I wasn't

Offline rmonks

  • !!!
  • Sr. Member
  • ****
  • Posts: 457
Re: blocking out text and printing over it.
« Reply #10 on: February 05, 2014, 04:45:27 PM »
If you don't have lasers or want to line it up perfect. Make a screen with the exact design that is on the shirt. Then lower that screen on the shirt. Pull the edges of the shirt until the design on the screen and the design on the shirt line up. You can get real fast at this and you can even do a lot better cover up then a big block. I did this with about 100 shirts that a customer forgot info. It only took about a hour and a half to do the 100 shirts this way. It had text over the original design, under the original and on top of the original design. Could never of did it with lasers. They all came out perfect. Charge a lot it does suck.
I like this idea.. Looks like it would as you have said make for a smaller overprint. Thanks to all that responded,

Offline screenxpress

  • !!!
  • Gonzo Member
  • ******
  • Posts: 2434
Re: blocking out text and printing over it.
« Reply #11 on: February 05, 2014, 10:57:27 PM »
I have to ask.....hows the "hand"?  Bulletproof or no?
Anything important is never left to the vote of the people. We only get to vote on some man; we never get to vote on what he is to do.  Will Rogers

Offline Croft

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 875
Re: blocking out text and printing over it.
« Reply #12 on: February 06, 2014, 07:58:05 AM »
I think we have all done it at some time. it will show but if you are putting a new number over top it will be hardly noticable.  If its for a good customer I wouldn't go nuts charging them , helping them out is worth way more than the few bucks you'll get to fix BUT make sure they know its not easy and can't always be done.   I have fixed some and not on others always do a sample first and let them Ok it.

Offline Scobey Peterman

  • Sr. Member
  • ****
  • Posts: 498
Re: blocking out text and printing over it.
« Reply #13 on: February 09, 2014, 09:44:48 AM »
On a sweat shirt, you might want to heat press after you re-print it to make the print flatter and not so rough.

Press it for about 4 seconds using a pad in between the plys and the Teflon sheet over you print.
Quality over Quantity

Offline TCT

  • !!!
  • Gonzo Member
  • ******
  • Posts: 2877
Re: blocking out text and printing over it.
« Reply #14 on: February 09, 2014, 11:53:43 AM »
On a sweat shirt, you might want to heat press after you re-print it to make the print flatter and not so rough.

Press it for about 4 seconds using a pad in between the plys and the Teflon sheet over you print.

Very good tip!!!
Alex

Hopefully I'll never have to grow up and get a real job...

www.twincitytees.com