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Offline Mr Tees!!

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Dehazer/Degreaser...what do you like?
« on: January 27, 2014, 12:44:10 PM »
...Just wondering what everyone uses for their last reclaim step. We have used Easiway 701 and ICC 858. Looking for a one-step answer following emulsion removal, when using a dip-tank type system. Any suggestions?

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« Last Edit: January 27, 2014, 03:28:26 PM by Mr Tees!! »
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Re: Dehazer/Degreaser...what do you like?
« Reply #1 on: January 27, 2014, 12:57:23 PM »
...Just wondering what everyone uses for their last reclaim step. We have used Easiway 701 and ICC 858. Looking for a one-step answer prior to emulsion removal, when using a dip-tank type system. Any suggestions?

...and no, Sonny, I cant wait for your "game-changer"...
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Re: Dehazer/Degreaser...what do you like?
« Reply #2 on: January 27, 2014, 03:19:49 PM »
Prior to emulsion remover?
The only time I ever heard of degreasing at this point is/was when something a little "oily" like mineral spirits was used as an ink cleaner seemed to leave a film that hindered the action of the emulsion remover.
Many report no need for degreasing (as the last step). They, I believe tend to be the ones using ink degradents like 701 that also help set the proper ph, another major reason for degreasing.

As for haze removal, I swear by CCI Liquid Renuit, keeping in mind that though not a super nasty butt kicker like Autohaze, it is still an alkaline solution that can damage mesh if left on too long.
It also serves as a "degreaser"
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Re: Dehazer/Degreaser...what do you like?
« Reply #3 on: January 27, 2014, 03:31:37 PM »
....edited OP to ask the actual question that I had in my head, not the one I had in my fingers. Thanks for that Frog!  ;)

...Yes, after stencil removal, as the last step before drying and coating. Something that accomplishes the same task as 70 essentially, but just wondering if anyone uses anything different, and why.
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Re: Dehazer/Degreaser...what do you like?
« Reply #4 on: January 27, 2014, 03:33:55 PM »
Well, all but my first two sentences may still be relevant.
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Re: Dehazer/Degreaser...what do you like?
« Reply #5 on: January 27, 2014, 03:34:58 PM »
CCI Envirohaze is what i like.
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Re: Dehazer/Degreaser...what do you like?
« Reply #6 on: January 27, 2014, 03:40:40 PM »
liquid envirohaze

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Re: Dehazer/Degreaser...what do you like?
« Reply #7 on: January 27, 2014, 03:55:17 PM »
...Okay, you guys using Envirohaze...are you using that everytime as your final step? I kinda thought that was for tough-stain removal on an as-needed basis, as opposed to using it every time.

...thanks!
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Re: Dehazer/Degreaser...what do you like?
« Reply #8 on: January 27, 2014, 04:25:25 PM »
We like the Saati IR- 18, does a nice job and economical.

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Re: Dehazer/Degreaser...what do you like?
« Reply #9 on: January 27, 2014, 05:02:36 PM »
We only dehaze the really bad ones, we use a degreaser on all, and end with a prep. Coats as smooth as a baby's you know what...

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Re: Dehazer/Degreaser...what do you like?
« Reply #10 on: January 27, 2014, 05:21:11 PM »
We degrease after every blowout..... ;) Believe it or not for the first couple of years we would just put a drop of Dawn dish soap on a scrub pad and go to town. One drop was more than enough for 1-2 screens per scrub. That was on 23x31's. Worked just as well if not better than commercial degreasers. I only switched when we ran out because I did not have time to run out and get more and my supply rep was right there. It is one of those things that the chem companies dont want you to know.
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Re: Dehazer/Degreaser...what do you like?
« Reply #11 on: January 27, 2014, 05:31:50 PM »
I meant Liquid ReNuIt…. long day guys… long day….

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Re: Dehazer/Degreaser...what do you like?
« Reply #12 on: March 13, 2014, 11:16:48 AM »
...Just wondering what everyone uses for their last reclaim step. We have used Easiway 701 and ICC 858. Looking for a one-step answer following emulsion removal, when using a dip-tank type system. Any suggestions?

...and no, Sonny, I cant wait for your "game-changer"...

Mr. Tees, why are you looking for something different? What are you trying to achieve? Cost, performance?

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Re: Dehazer/Degreaser...what do you like?
« Reply #13 on: March 13, 2014, 11:40:41 AM »
We use franmar D-haze for everyday use, and we have some tougher Pregan-Paste type stuff for bad stains as we print a lot of solvent based and epoxy inks.

We never user degreaser, just a good rinse after d-haze.
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Re: Dehazer/Degreaser...what do you like?
« Reply #14 on: March 13, 2014, 11:48:30 AM »
We use franmar D-haze for everyday use, and we have some tougher Pregan-Paste type stuff for bad stains as we print a lot of solvent based and epoxy inks.

We never user degreaser, just a good rinse after d-haze.

Same here, except I have nothing stronger than the D-Haze.
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