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Offline JBLUE

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Re: Time estimation manually printing on a bunch of white tees
« Reply #30 on: January 09, 2014, 03:51:03 PM »
It's only 3 sponsors, the radio station, local coke bottling company and us.

I said we would do our smaller at the bottom. ;)

I think the problem is the bottling company is wanting the colors.  Might be mandated.

Great tip though!

Then the bottling company can pay for the colors. Set the rules. Your the one getting the short end of the stick in this deal anyways.
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Re: Time estimation manually printing on a bunch of white tees
« Reply #31 on: January 09, 2014, 03:59:29 PM »
It's only 3 sponsors, the radio station, local coke bottling company and us.

I said we would do our smaller at the bottom. ;)

I think the problem is the bottling company is wanting the colors.  Might be mandated.

Great tip though!

Better also find out how close to "corporate Coke red" and other colors they expect.

I explained that and she knows about pms.

It's only 3 sponsors, the radio station, local coke bottling company and us.

I said we would do our smaller at the bottom. ;)

I think the problem is the bottling company is wanting the colors.  Might be mandated.

Great tip though!

Then the bottling company can pay for the colors. Set the rules. Your the one getting the short end of the stick in this deal anyways.

Only thing I may have done wrong is not up charging for the 4cp.  They are actually paying .30 cents OVER my pricing I would have given them because she sucks at math.

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Re: Time estimation manually printing on a bunch of white tees
« Reply #32 on: January 09, 2014, 10:02:03 PM »
It's only 3 sponsors, the radio station, local coke bottling company and us.

I said we would do our smaller at the bottom. ;)

I think the problem is the bottling company is wanting the colors.  Might be mandated.

Great tip though!

What you did wrong was to offer 4 CP............ ;)

Better also find out how close to "corporate Coke red" and other colors they expect.

I explained that and she knows about pms.

It's only 3 sponsors, the radio station, local coke bottling company and us.

I said we would do our smaller at the bottom. ;)

I think the problem is the bottling company is wanting the colors.  Might be mandated.

Great tip though!

Then the bottling company can pay for the colors. Set the rules. Your the one getting the short end of the stick in this deal anyways.

Only thing I may have done wrong is not up charging for the 4cp.  They are actually paying .30 cents OVER my pricing I would have given them because she sucks at math.
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Re: Time estimation manually printing on a bunch of white tees
« Reply #33 on: January 10, 2014, 02:11:21 AM »
Actually they assumed, and I said yes... same difference. lol

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Re: Time estimation manually printing on a bunch of white tees
« Reply #34 on: January 10, 2014, 08:43:23 AM »
Last May I did a 2000 piece order on lime green shirts. 3 color front, 1 color sleeve and 1 color back. I finished it in 5 days on a manual. It was brutal. Staging was tough for us also. Not much space to layout 2000 pieces.

I would probably try to bang out that order in about 2 days.

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Re: Time estimation manually printing on a bunch of white tees
« Reply #35 on: January 10, 2014, 10:18:41 AM »
I would not even ATTEMPT to produce a corporate pms (reference) color in process...(Well, I have, but...!)dunno what logo the bottler is wanting, or how many colors you can print, but if you think there is even a REMOTE chance of the sponsor being a stickler for the pantone number(s), you are gonna be tearing your hair out trying to get a  CLOSE match (hopefully, without screwing up the color balance of something else in the print!)
      I WOULD want a "touch plate" (dedicated spot screen ) for the problem color(s)
   
+ 1 on the general innefficacy of radio ads, but I certainly wish you good luck! Get printing! LOL!
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Re: Time estimation manually printing on a bunch of white tees
« Reply #36 on: January 10, 2014, 11:55:46 AM »
It's only 3 sponsors, the radio station, local coke bottling company and us.

I said we would do our smaller at the bottom. ;)

I think the problem is the bottling company is wanting the colors.  Might be mandated.

Great tip though!

Better also find out how close to "corporate Coke red" and other colors they expect.

When we do 4CP for sponsors, we tell them they get what they get; nobody is paying enough money for that. They'll look right to the normal observer. Hell, even Coca-Cola doesn't have matching red on everything...

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Re: Time estimation manually printing on a bunch of white tees
« Reply #37 on: January 10, 2014, 12:20:10 PM »
4CP on manual=no two are alike BTW

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Re: Time estimation manually printing on a bunch of white tees
« Reply #38 on: January 10, 2014, 12:40:52 PM »
Man I was really rooting for you on this one, but it will be challenging to say the least to get extremely consistent 4CP on a manual, especially if you are trying to hustle. It can be done, just not easily, and a large job may not be the best testing ground buddy....
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Re: Time estimation manually printing on a bunch of white tees
« Reply #39 on: January 10, 2014, 01:25:57 PM »
Gilly, are you sure you have to run the back 4cp? can you post the art?  what about your home slice with the brown auto?

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Re: Time estimation manually printing on a bunch of white tees
« Reply #40 on: January 10, 2014, 04:49:45 PM »
It's Pepsi, DR. P and 7 up.

I think we are going to make a road trip to New Orleans and put that servo lift through it's paces. ;)

We will end up coming out of pocket by about $200 bucks in the end (for the $2,700 in advertising).

It has been explained that if they need PMS we could do 4cp AND PMS for those colors.  It's really the bottling company, so I doubt they will be total pricks about it.

I wouldn't ever try 4CP on a manual... especially not with 1000 people all wearing the shirt at one event right next to each other!  LOL

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Re: Time estimation manually printing on a bunch of white tees
« Reply #41 on: January 10, 2014, 04:54:33 PM »
4CP on manual=no two are alike BTW

Yep, the best printer would not be able to make them look alike; close, but no cigar.

Steve

Also, I printed a gazillion for Coca Cola in 1980. They are pricks, we eventually "fired" them. After a 150K run, they wanted us to print 12-24 1 colors on some backs for $0.125 (yes, twelve and a half cents). If you do have to print their red, mix it up, print a sample and have them sign off on it...
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Re: Time estimation manually printing on a bunch of white tees
« Reply #42 on: January 10, 2014, 05:03:16 PM »
I got my first job by printing a 4cp better than their current employee. I went in to see if they were looking to hire, never having printed by hand on cloth, only flat-stock & such on clam-shell auto's, The Owner walked me over to the set-up press and had me print 6 shirts 4cp. The next day I was full time and the other guy got his walking papers.

With care you can get them pretty good, it's not undo-able, but yes there will be some variation.
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Re: Time estimation manually printing on a bunch of white tees
« Reply #43 on: January 10, 2014, 08:21:30 PM »
4CP on manual=no two are alike BTW

Unfortunately, 4CP on many AUTOS are the same way.

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BTW - my estimation for 1CP on a manual is always 80-90 dz per day, comfortably anyway.
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