THEY'RE HERE...S Thread Statics

[ABuffington]

There are two schools of thought on tensioning. The first is rapid tension, take it to the desired tension and glue immediately.  The other is to stage the mesh by going to say 12, release completely, immediately go to 19 back to 0 then to 22, back to 0 and then to final tension, allow it to sit a few minutes, capture the 1-2 newtons that are lost and glue it down.  If you have the time you can pre-soften the mesh with a weight or other method.  I have seen great results both ways.  A high volume shop may just take to tension, let it drop 1-2 newtons and bring up to tenion before gluing.  For me staging does help.  Athletes stretch before running and I think S mesh in particular likes the tension to be incremental to get accustomed to the tension.  A lot depends on the stretching device, the better the stretcher, the more it has auto compensating corner softening and the more uniform the capture, the easier it is to take it to tension quickly and still get excellent results.  We offer our stretched frames through our entire dealer network, or you can call the office here and we will work with your dealer to drop ship from here.

Alan Buffington
800.562.3534 ext 118

[Frog]

 
We offer our stretched frames through our entire dealer network, or you can call the office here and we will work with your dealer to drop ship from here.

Alan Buffington
800.562.3534 ext 118

Do you offer re-stretch, or have recommendations out here on the left coast?

[inkman996]

My screen guy stages, once the mesh is at the tension he is aiming for he places weights on them for a while. Then he tensions back up to the desired tension and glues. His screens come almost work hardened to us because of the weights he uses but he is a specialty screen place only not open to the general industry for mass orders. But since he has some of our equipment and we have worked together for many years he hooks us up nicely.

[ABuffington]

We restretch here in LA, Westar and Dimensional offer the service out of Washington area, and Kings Mountain Screen Service in North Carolina on the East coast also stretches on our frames or your clean aluminum frames.  River City in Texas, Advanced Screen Technology in Phoenix, Multicraft in Ohio are a few others.  Anyone on our dealer list can sell our pre-stretched and we do offer bulk re-stretching services if you want it done here on our stretcher as well. 

http://murakamiscreen.com/murakami-us-dealers/

Or you can call us here and we can arrange for your dealer to place a restretching order.

Alan Buffington
800.562.3534 ext 118

[Screened Gear]

Thanks Jon for the photo and reply. 

Alan

Alan,

My post is not your screen. I just wanted to clarify that. My response was to the fact that statics can't hold tension over time or have high tension. Mainly pointed at john. By the way John has an amazing shop. Best shop I have ever seen. He has put alot of time and effort into that shop. Jak prints has to know they picked the right guy for the job.

[blue moon]

We restretch here in LA, Westar and Dimensional offer the service out of Washington area, and Kings Mountain Screen Service in North Carolina on the East coast also stretches on our frames or your clean aluminum frames.  River City in Texas, Advanced Screen Technology in Phoenix, Multicraft in Ohio are a few others.  Anyone on our dealer list can sell our pre-stretched and we do offer bulk re-stretching services if you want it done here on our stretcher as well. 

http://murakamiscreen.com/murakami-us-dealers/

Or you can call us here and we can arrange for your dealer to place a restretching order.

Alan Buffington
800.562.3534 ext 118

I hate to bash Multicraft as they have been good to us, but I have given them several chances with the stretching and they keep failing miserably. Anybody looking for good screens, have them shipped to your dealer from Murakami. Without a doubt their screens were the best I've ever seen.

pierre

[jsheridan]

There are two schools of thought on tensioning. The first is rapid tension, take it to the desired tension and glue immediately.  The other is to stage the mesh

This was how I stretched my Newman frames for the first 10-12 years I made them. 305's would take me 3 days to make as I brought them up really slow, would weight them overnight then creep them up to production levels. Those were some glorious frames but the time to make them.. ugg!

Then I got a Roller Master and started going 25% over max tension and allowing them to rest down to production levels.
Doing this rapidly allowed the screen to hit the floor in hours and with 2-3 retensions, was golden.

[ZooCity]

I bought us a small set of large, 36x45 or something, S thread statics direct for Murakami.  Very nice screens at excellent tension for the size and reasonable cost.  Murakami knows their own mesh and will tension it confidently.  A lot of suppliers tend to get spooked and won't get up to target tension/working before gluing. 

Statics are kind of a no-go for us considering location/shipping but I would have no problem running them if we were a little more local to a stretcher or stretched in house.

[TCT]

Northwest Graphic(http://nwgraphic.com/) up here in MN will stretch them to upper 20's with the S mesh.

The thing we found is a "cheep" static frame can't hold the tension very well...

[Prosperi-Tees]

Im using our slow time to edumacate myself and I have this question concerning s-mesh static's and retensionable frames that are running high tension.

Is the end results close when using either? A lower tension s-mesh static that has more open area versus a standard mesh retensionable running higher tension?

[Underbase37]

I would say "about". But reten. "S" set to a bit higher tension than a s-static can be a very nice thing, fragile, but nice.

Murphy37

[tonypep]

On the opposite side of the fence I can't wait till some of my screens lose tension.

[sqslabs]

On the opposite side of the fence I can't wait till some of my screens lose tension.

I have 50-100 "work softened" statics that I'd be willing to let go at a very reasonable price.   

[Underbase37]

Ha.lol. Nice, this is why I'm likening the "S" statics lately, kind of a meeting in the middle.

Murphy37

[bulldog]

On the opposite side of the fence I can't wait till some of my screens lose tension.

I have 50-100 "work softened" statics that I'd be willing to let go at a very reasonable price.   

How much tension drop did you wind up having? (Not including those ones the mesh came unglued - I think that was you anyway.)