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Offline PhilR

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Re: After wash Discharge pics.....?
« Reply #15 on: December 15, 2013, 07:36:34 AM »
I've just picked up the CCI PMS kit and this was my first test with it. Used the +5% pigment boost and cut the activator down to 3%. Pretty happy with the results, my previous attempts at colour discharge prints had pretty poor afterwash performance. Ran it through the dryer twice on the slowest speed just to be sure.

Didn't hold back on the wash either, standard laundry run with detergent. 30deg wash, 180deg tumble dry. Shirt on the left is washed, one on the right is an unwashed print for comparison.


Offline dirkdiggler

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Re: After wash Discharge pics.....?
« Reply #16 on: December 15, 2013, 08:31:49 AM »
your first post and you were brave enough to silence the crickets!  Good job.
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Re: After wash Discharge pics.....?
« Reply #17 on: December 15, 2013, 01:03:12 PM »
your first post and you were brave enough to silence the crickets!  Good job.

Well, why speak 'less you got something to say?  ;)

It was reading this forum that made me pick up the starter set though. I was put off colour DC printing for a while due to problems with washing.

Offline ScreenPrinter123

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Re: After wash Discharge pics.....?
« Reply #18 on: December 15, 2013, 02:22:41 PM »
Phil,
When u say you did the +5% pigment boost you mean you just did 15% total? 

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Re: After wash Discharge pics.....?
« Reply #19 on: December 15, 2013, 02:28:11 PM »
he probably means he used the option in the software, to automatically add five percent boost to the recipe.
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Re: After wash Discharge pics.....?
« Reply #20 on: December 15, 2013, 02:41:31 PM »
he probably means he used the option in the software, to automatically add five percent boost to the recipe.

You are correct sir.

I read a few folks here recommending as high as 20% pigment load but I thought I'd go with the more conservative option for my first test.

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Re: After wash Discharge pics.....?
« Reply #21 on: March 15, 2014, 11:05:56 AM »
bringing this back up...


 we seem to have issues with black staying black, it washes to a faded charcaol-ish color. I have a gallon of sericol black to test out. We do not add any discharge agent to black -tried it once and that was a bad idea.....any blacks better than others or should I just use a plastisol through a high mesh?
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Re: After wash Discharge pics.....?
« Reply #22 on: March 15, 2014, 03:23:43 PM »
I switched back to black plastisol through high (225-310) S mesh and 65/95/65 duros for similar issues using cci's wb black but tried no others.  The feel with those mesh counts is comparable anyway without some of the dc headaches. Constant issue - I'm guessing this is the case for wb black too(?) - is watching out for fibrillation.  However just this past week I had great success with black on a light blue running small open area through a 270t mesh and used a 225s mesh for one with large open area. Neither had any meaningful fibrillation after first wash and dry. Having said that, I wish the 225 would've been on the 270 to see if the feel would have been significNtly less, though it was quite good nonetheless - was running it at 23"/second and had 3 roller squeegees running prior to the black to help with fiber matte down (and primarily for lint boogers) so I have no idea how much that helped too (if at all) with matting down the fibers before the print.

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Re: After wash Discharge pics.....?
« Reply #23 on: March 15, 2014, 08:05:49 PM »
I have had good luck mixing my own black....20percent load CC I.  You gotta bury it I the shirt,,,,,lots of pressure.   Wash tests 3 times over with detergent......looks great.

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Re: After wash Discharge pics.....?
« Reply #24 on: March 15, 2014, 08:16:18 PM »
Don't run un  activated sericol black. In fact, I don't recommend running any DC ink un activated. 

Cci spot black tested out best for us. Pretty much matches or beats plastisol in long haul wash tests. Looking into running some fixers to eliminate even more fibrillation and seeing how hsa black performs. If the hsa is wow friendly that could be a solution.

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