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How to make a Newman Roller frame in 10 minutes or less, that's the goal for any screen maker and I can show you how.
This video is for those who desire or currently use Bolt Mesh.

I was helping a friend re-stretch 50 frames last week and I stuck my GoPro on the wall and after some editing, this is what we have.

http://youtu.be/YMcKjQAr988
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Re: Video - How to make a Newman Roller frame in 10 minutes or less.
« Reply #1 on: August 22, 2011, 12:50:27 PM »
I love my Go Pro camera. You can stick it on anything. Great vid!
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Re: Video - How to make a Newman Roller frame in 10 minutes or less.
« Reply #2 on: August 22, 2011, 04:34:03 PM »
Question, why you tape all the sides, I think I know the answer, but let you tell me to be sure, great vid and I like the camera nice and clean vid.

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Re: Video - How to make a Newman Roller frame in 10 minutes or less.
« Reply #3 on: August 22, 2011, 04:57:16 PM »
No corner softening??

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Re: Video - How to make a Newman Roller frame in 10 minutes or less.
« Reply #4 on: August 22, 2011, 05:12:51 PM »
He softened the corners with a short black object and his fingers.

I've got a questions, though. Does the white tape stretch when you retension?
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Re: Video - How to make a Newman Roller frame in 10 minutes or less.
« Reply #5 on: August 22, 2011, 05:21:40 PM »
great video, but with the extra 8 min it takes I could have been printing about 100 shirts per screen...You did a kick ass job with bolt mesh, but the labor difference vs. Shur-loc is a no brainer...and we have never popped a screen due to not softening corners enough...

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Re: Video - How to make a Newman Roller frame in 10 minutes or less.
« Reply #6 on: August 22, 2011, 08:39:29 PM »
I have to agree with Sam. Shur-Loc panels are everything they're cracked up to be. The only one's I've torn have been by bumping against a sharp corner. Maximum tension the easy way. Send Shur-Loc your bolt mesh to be made into panels if you've got any hanging around. They did a bunch for me and got more panels out of the yardage than I'd have gotten tearing and swearing.
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Re: Video - How to make a Newman Roller frame in 10 minutes or less.
« Reply #7 on: August 22, 2011, 08:40:16 PM »
great video, but with the extra 8 min it takes I could have been printing about 100 shirts per screen...You did a kick ass job with bolt mesh, but the labor difference vs. Shur-loc is a no brainer...and we have never popped a screen due to not softening corners enough...

Sam

I guess it's your job to post the YouTube of the "2 minute Newman Roller frame"  ;D

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Re: Video - How to make a Newman Roller frame in 10 minutes or less.
« Reply #8 on: August 22, 2011, 08:59:19 PM »
I've broken two glasses from the sure-loc strips popping out of the frame. Not to mention the sloppy corners.  I will stick to the bolt mesh.  Much better screens in my opinion but thats just my 2.

Great vid John.  I never thought of taping the corners like that.  Now go clean that smudge off the lens.
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Re: Video - How to make a Newman Roller frame in 10 minutes or less.
« Reply #9 on: August 22, 2011, 09:16:44 PM »
You used a roller table. No fair!

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Re: Video - How to make a Newman Roller frame in 10 minutes or less.
« Reply #10 on: August 22, 2011, 09:27:19 PM »
Give me a static frame any day, looked like he was rebuilding a FREAKIN engine. Personally I think the video it's self blows, smudge on the lens, crappy porn music, and to damn long. You owe me tens minutes! ;D

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Re: Video - How to make a Newman Roller frame in 10 minutes or less.
« Reply #11 on: August 22, 2011, 09:31:28 PM »
I loved the f'in 49.95 plug at the end...priceless!

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Re: Video - How to make a Newman Roller frame in 10 minutes or less.
« Reply #12 on: August 22, 2011, 09:49:34 PM »
Question, why you tape all the sides, I think I know the answer, but let you tell me to be sure, great vid and I like the camera nice and clean vid.

Darryl

I tape everything as my buddys shop is very high volume and violent when it comes to screens. Tape all the way aroud as these 270 screens are fragile and only last about 6 months before they get damaged and pop.

No corner softening??

Frank

starts at the 5 minute mark.

great video, but with the extra 8 min it takes I could have been printing about 100 shirts per screen...You did a kick ass job with bolt mesh, but the labor difference vs. Shur-loc is a no brainer...and we have never popped a screen due to not softening corners enough...

Sam

That's why this video is entitled BOLT MESH.. panels are next week when I go back and do my frames.

I've broken two glasses from the sure-loc strips popping out of the frame. Not to mention the sloppy corners.  I will stick to the bolt mesh.  Much better screens in my opinion but thats just my 2.

Great vid John.  I never thought of taping the corners like that.  Now go clean that smudge off the lens.

I've been a bolt guy for 20 yrs now. I find it's easier to control variables like roller indexing and corner softening. I can also pick up an extra inch of print area as the panel corners are to soft for me. The corners were taped to help prevent tape-mesh tear. He uses some cheap packing tape with crazy adhesive that will hold and rip mesh right out of the high mesh counts when the screen crew untapes screens.

Had no idea the smudge was there till I got home and reviewed 2 hours of video.. it's a GoPro and I don't have the LCD bakpak.


Thanks for the support guys!

Later this week I'm going back to the shop to stretch my frames. I have 12 panels coming in and will stretch them the same way you saw here and post  video of that as well.
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Re: Video - How to make a Newman Roller frame in 10 minutes or less.
« Reply #13 on: August 22, 2011, 11:17:12 PM »
I just started trying out the shurloc's. I like em. Not as controllable as bolt mesh but I still think they have their place. I might order a few more panels to see if it "sticks" with me.

I don't have a roller table but I can get the first tension on a M3 frame in about 6-8 minutes, or less if I'm drinking enough coffee. Subsequent tensionings take just a minute or so each.
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Re: Video - How to make a Newman Roller frame in 10 minutes or less.
« Reply #14 on: August 23, 2011, 01:24:06 AM »

I've got a questions, though. Does the white tape stretch when you re-tension?


The small pieces I put on the corners are more for protection. They will stretch a little but they will have to be replaced after a few tensions. This won't be the case with the frames I made here, as they never make it back to re-tension. Sadly they're high end static frames. I was with him 5 yrs ago before moving back east when I helped him switch from static to Rollers and the biggest thing we talked about was screen maintenance, how to take care of the screens, how to keep up on your tension and all that fun stuff. It never happened and the screens are in horrible shape. So he calls me when his busted stack hits 40 screens. I show up and spend a couple days re-stretching screens for him and we talk about way to improve things.

The next thing I get to do for him is get the tri-loc system back in order.
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